Sorry Harry, it was poor English on my part. What I really should have been clearer on is that there seems to be two main schools of thought among Saints fans in relation to the decision. One, it was (or some even saying maybe, maybe not) off-side but it was a very close call and those are the breaks we have to live with. As such, I have sympathy with Saints fans and other people saying it was a harsh decision. However, for those calling it a shocking decision, 100% wrong, diabolical etc (like Havensaint below on the page from your quote above) are deluded are they not?

That looks to be the only honest original shot I have seen and the line looks to be in persepective and as I have said, it was a very close call and neither blatantly off-side or on-side.

I wonder if the idiots on Sky Sports will apologise for their histrionics during the game, and finally give us the credit we deserve?

You'll know if that is about to happen, the sound of a Pigs wings flapping is hard to miss.

TBH it's not us they should be apologising to, it's Bentham.

True, it would only be drowned out by the sound of St Helens freezing over

Some good work here by Inflatable armadillo, much better than the massive spinning rubber rings WTF! that sky came up with after the game.

Excellent work

and the ball was hidden behind Pryce`s right leg (nearest the try line) as was seen on the Sky camera from the reverse angle.

so it is a very fine call indeed and with benefit to the attacking side was the right decision. Some you win some you lose. Just ask Wigan in the Semi-Final

Has anyone got similar evidence to show if Tansey was or wasn't offside when he scored against the Bulls in Cardiff the other year?

I've only just stopped laughing and now want to actually consider if the try should have been awarded or not.

Not to hand...... but really, he wasn't even close to being onside

I was just getting a little fed up with the Numpty's on the entertainers and RedVee who clearly do not understand perspective and vanishing points!

The vertical line of course indicates the position of the rail camera in relation to the pitch at the point this shot is frozen (the one Bentham decided on). It is a good 5m+ in front of the play which make it bloody hard, even with the perspective lines, to be make a decision. However, it does look to me like Smith's foot is behind the ball and therefore on-side to me.

Now, now, Tansey was in front of the ball when it was kicked and the rules are very, very clear on penalty kicks, he must be BEHIND the ball. Tansey was not and was therefore well off-side... unlike the very tight call on Saturday.

Agreed, Tansey was definately offside unlike Smith. However Tansey wasnt the 50 odd metres offside that Eddie & Stevo would like everyone to think he was. Plus if some of the Bradford players had put a little bit of effort into getting near the ball instead of waving their arms around they may have stopped it.

It also should be added that when McGuire kicked the ball it wasn't on the ground, it was perhaps 12-18 inches from the ground. Drawing a line directly from the ball will be slightly inaccurate, and adding in the height of the ball would work even more in favour of Smith being onside.