We should in that case.

But what will Steve Mc do??????

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Quote: G1 " I know of no other sport where the supporters are so fixated wit hthe referees.'" bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=184042

Bradford will get robbed and Leeds will get all the calls again as they always do.

Brent Webb's 'knock on' last year at Easter v Bulls. Given by Mr Alibert, I believe, as video ref. This was never in a million years a knock on. It did not touch the ground or a member of the opposing team. May have been a forward pass but the VR cannot call on that.

Screwed us over good and proper.

That's all well and good and i mostly agree but imo they ALL still need to improve their consistency from Cummings down.

They do, so do the players, so do the coaches. We're too fixated on referees and fans often focus on them rather than the shortcomings of their own players/coaches.

Referees error rates are usually much, much lower than players and commentators.

and most fans and commentators have only a very very basic understanding or knowledge of the rules.

All the refs are absolutely useless – games would be freer flowing and far mare entertaining if we did away with them altogether.

How many time have you been watching a game and for some reason or another the ref blows his whistle and the game comes to a complete standstill?

One of the daftest ideas the RFL have come up with and as long as they maintain this ridiculous idea that there needs to be some kind of governing representative on the pitch the longer our entertainment will be marred.

Naturally we are biased in favour of our players rather than the referee and his assistants - however - there are times where it is difficult to understand why a series of decisions are made.

As I recollect, in the middle of a match part-way through last season Kevin Sinfield had to ask the referee why Leeds were being penalised and then asked what was different that we did compared to the opposition - who were not being penalised. The same point was made by Brian McClennan in a couple of post-match interviews.

Incidentally, I thought that it was JJB who "knocked on" the ball in mid-air. A ball that came from a player in front of him and was caught by a player behind him - how can this be??

In the same match Brent Web "scored" and then had it disallowed for a very dubious offside call - the same situation being seen in many matches and never penalised - except for that one.

Referees make mistakes - far fewer than fans or certain commentators might believe - but they do make them. They also have to make calls on 50/50 situations where each set of fans will see them as 80/20s (in their club's favour) and I'm sure there are various 50/50s that fans of all clubs could point to where they'll claim they're hard done by.

There is too much focus of referees in general, and there are always certain referees that are 'assessed' differently by fans.

Referees are really annoying.
You spend the whole game complaining about their crap decisions & bias against your team only to get home, watch the game again on TV & see that they were right nearly all the time.
They generally make far fewer mistakes than the players.

The ball was lost forward (relative to the ground, not the player), not passed. It was not re-gathered by the same player who lost it forward, but by a team-mate before it hit the ground.

"If, after knocking-on accidentally, the player knocking-on regains or kicks the ball before it
touches the ground, a goal post, cross bar or an opponent, then play shall be allowed to proceed."

The player knocking-on did not regain the ball. Therefore it's a knock-on, not a forward pass and something on which the VR is perfectly entitled to adjudicate.

On the second point:

"Players of the side in possession other than the player taking part in the play-the-ball and the acting halfback must retire behind their players involved in the play-the-ball or to their own goal line."

The touchjudge that night had seen Brent Webb was in front of the play the ball at the time the ball was brought back into play. Webb subsequently touched the ball, meaning he was offside.

If you think you see that exact same situation occuring in "many matches" then I would suggest you try using both eyes to watch games in future, it may assist with your perception of depth and distance.

As offside calls go, that one was about the least dubious you will ever see. I'm sure I don't have to bring up the whole Lee Smith/Grand Final thing again if you want an example of what a dubious offside call looks like.