26%

*facepalm*

Cocaine is out of your system pretty quick Hock was stupid to allegedly have taken it but even more stupid to get caught.

Why recreational?

I guess if you need a release from the pressure or something, or you do stupid things when drunk.

In terms of performance enhancing there are numerous things an athlete can use without getting caught, short esters of testosterone, IGF-1 etc etc.

At least then you improve your performance and you don't get caught.

Why not just have a five knuckle shuffle?

More here: www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 561707.ece Apparently he's in pieces. Bless.

More here: www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 561707.ece Apparently he's in pieces. Bless.

But the RFL have a test for that and Hock's been caught out as a complete w*nker!!

Quote ="thebloodbath"More here: www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 561707.ece Apparently he's in pieces. Bless.'" Awwwwww

Quote ="thebloodbath"More here: www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 561707.ece Apparently he's in pieces. Bless.'" Awwwwww

Because even his hands think him ugly.

metabolites stay longer

plus you never know what the junk is cut with.

I doubt he knowingly used it in advance of a test. Just got caught. He should have done a Rio and gone shopping instead

The big rumour at the moment is that Hock knew he would fail a test, told a certain employee before the Salford game, but the risk was taken and he got selected by the testers after the game.

That employee was sacked last night.

If true that would suggest some complicity on the part of the employer wouldn't it ?

An attitude of "we know you do it because you've told us so we'll try not to select you when you might fail a test" ???

If true then it would it be so surprising if other clubs had a simliar attitude too ?

Meanwhile in unrelated news Ryan Bailey and Matt Diskin failed fitness tests on Saturday morning causing Simon Worrall to be brought into the seventeen from outside the original nineteen.

That's a rarity these days.

If you had a key player on ££££ and he told you he would fail an upcoming test. As a club would to go with the moralistic response or look after a key asset from a clubs perspective??

It depends if you're the sort of club chairman who signs up to the RFL's anti-doping rules and is quite happy to have his players tested regularly as long as they don't test the ones who are doped.

It also depends if you're the sort of club chairman who is quite happy to promote his players as community role models whilst all the while knowing that they have an illegal drug habit, if you're the sort of club chairman who thinks that that sort of thing is OK as long as you don't get caught then your point may stand.

Quote ="thebloodbath"More here: www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 561707.ece Apparently he's in pieces. Bless.'" interesting comment in that article 'Eyebrows were raised when Hock was omitted from the initial 17-strong England elite squad and “national registered testing pool”, who under Wada regulations must give notice of their whereabouts on a given hour each day.'

Quote ="thebloodbath"More here: www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 561707.ece Apparently he's in pieces. Bless.'" interesting comment in that article 'Eyebrows were raised when Hock was omitted from the initial 17-strong England elite squad and “national registered testing pool”, who under Wada regulations must give notice of their whereabouts on a given hour each day.'

He's been daft and he's dropped unlucky.

Good luck to him in his rehabilitation and I hope he can return from it.

Agreed.

You see, that's the concern. If it's going on, it needs weeding out. The odd player will always misbehave and screw things up, but there seems to be a feeling that there is more to this problem than that. If it's a cultural problem, something needs to be done, even if that means losing some high profile players from the game.

PMSL

LMFAO

how many players do you think do it/have done it at some point?? I would be interested to know how many of these random tests are done each year. I imagine the odds of doping any substance and gettign away with it would be pretty good.

Wasn't too long ago the Hudds player failed a dope test. Only real way to to weed it out is for RFL to make ALL clubs force regular tests on its players(queue employment can of worms). Even then would the clubs deal with results internally??

btw Read in todays metro that UK is coke capital of the world with more users than anywhere.

Why part of my original post was deleted I am unsure. I didn't say anything that could get anybody into trouble. Just suggested that certain coaches should look at their disciplinary measures.

When clubs are actively teaching their players how to clense/flush their systems to stop being detected, we have a problem.

The RFL should step in and force more testing at club level. Not only would this help erradicate the problem, it would also give the sport some great PR.

The problem is, they know how many players would be caught out, and unfortunately this would include some of the 'pin-up' and 'model proffesionals'. So maybe they should give 6 months notice to the clubs. Maybe state that from next season there will tests done on a weekly basis.

Yes, I think the Clubs are going to have to take a long hard look at themselves. I personally would like to see random spot checks within the Club, backed up with a mandatory weekly one.

I don't buy this "he's dropped unlucky" crap either. He's a drug user who's been caught by a pretty lax set of drug testing standards, which merely highlights what a muppet he is.

Hopefully he'll get the support and treatment for his drug problem, but I'm not too bothered as to seeing him on a rugby field again.

bet shaun Long and Kieron Cunningham are bricking it !!