When I say I have no interest that's probably wrong, I do have interest, I watch the games but can't get upset about defeats. When I was a kid Leeds losing on a Sunday ruined the start of my week.

Whatever the current form it's hardly ST burning or "regretting buying one".
You are aware that we were never gone win EVERY game or perform 100% bang on form in them either aren't you?
Seen much worse and no doubt will see worse in the future i support Leeds Rhinos and love RL win lose or draw and whatever my opinions on individuals ,performances or the club that won't change.

.....and to top it all we now also have to put up with watching [uregulars[/u Kirke ..AND Smith stealing jerseys every week

I'm exactly the same. But that's the situation now and I'm comfortable with it. I know what I'm buying into.

Nant-It's frustrating of course it is and my opinions on some of the selections are well known BUT i support the club/team and that outweighs those i won't stop going or supporting because i disagree with some selections etc.

I'm not suggesting you stop going......and we [uALL[/u need to be grateful for guys like you who are the lifeblood and significant financiers of the game. A true supporter.

You allow us more mere 'floating' part time supporters to pick and choose our games.

Being a season ticket holder for me is more than just being a Leeds fan. It’s having something to look forward to every other week. I will watch Leeds play no matter what flavour of rugby they serve up that particular week.
You may ask why I would want to watch poor displays and not to “pick and choose” the games I go to?
Why? - Because losing is just as exciting as winning. You can only feel the highs when you know what the low feel like.

Last night, for example, I was hoping that we could pull it back. The more the clock ran down the more exciting it became. I will never regret buying a season ticket.

So go ahead and laugh at those of us that have season tickets, I care not a jot. I’ll support my club in my way, you can support it in your way but it’s you that looks a bit silly right now.

Don't get your proverbials knotted....I [iused[/i to be a season ticket holder for many years and part of the appeal was the banter, meeting mates and a chance to get out a bit. (Let's face it, in the days I supported the club we won nowt and were always the underachievers).

Life, other commitments and a move to the other side of the world, before settling in deepest Cheshire then got in the way.

Daresay if I still lived in Leeds I would be one of the "mugs" still buying a regular season ticket as well as the annual sky subscription

Yup, me too, except my money is limited to my Sky subscription and the odd Leeds game.

Great post.

Excellent post. Retrieved all my programmes and Open Rugbys from 1987 onwards from mothers loft. My 9 year old nephew looked at these and asked why did Leeds get beat by Widnes... Took a long time to explain that they beat us regularly!! If you're a Loiner you're a loiner forever...

! If you're a Loiner you're a loiner forever...'"

Quite. Being a loiner equates to your social roots and relationships formed, your sense of belonging and your definitive sense of who you are in relation to the city of Leeds where you were born, raised and in many cases continue to reside.

The same does not apply to being a rhino because the rhinos is a commodity just like any other commodity which you can select to purchase from a shelf in a store among other competing-for-your-attention commodities on the market. This is why we end up with rastrick rhinos, batley rhinos, fieldhead rhinos, middleton rhinos, mirfield rhinos, farsley rhinos, etc, who do not belong and would have no affiliation to being a loiner - they are just purchasing a brand-name commodity from an out-of-town store because it's unavailable in their local store. And because it's only a commodity bearing no relation to oneself, that commodity can also be rejected on the grounds of not being of satisfactory quality - not as described - not fit for the purpose, etc, to be replaced with an alternative commodity purchase.

If someone pops into a supermarket, they may be tempted to purchase a commodity they wouldn't normally be interested in on the basis that if they buy one, they get another free. When it's discovered that commodity lacks quality, they rarely purchase it again. They would be less tempted by an offer consisting of buy 11 get 2 free, yet that's how the commodity of a season ticket works and is successfully marketed. And it works because many consumers are manipulated through successful marketing to attach an irrational devotion or fetish to that commodity - in this case, the rhinos commodity - which they apply excessive attention and reverence to. But it's just a commodity like any other when you cut through the marketing spin and expose it for what it really is.

I've never purchased a rhinos season ticket because I regard it as nothing more than a commodity just like any other commodity competing for my purchasing attention. It has no meaning beyond that - unlike the sense of real loiner community belonging which I had a personal and real attachment to prior to Super League. I don't regard the rhinos commodity as of satisfactory quality or fit for the purpose. I don't purchase 13 items from a supermarket (even if 2 are free) when I know that the vast majority of them are going to be rubbish, therefore I don't purchase 13 rounds of commodity rhinos regular round meaningless rubbish either.

Not being funny. because you've used a lot of long words there that I think makes you feel superior. I love that the RHINOS can attract supporters from miles away, however, I was talking about 20 years ago, you know when you didn't talk down to people?

Keith - read that absolute insular post again and I feel sorry for you. Do you take the bulbs out before bed in case someone nicks em?

Keith, I know you think you're sounding smart and wise but you really aren't.

Some people are implying Season Ticket holders are 'mugs' for paying to watch a game they enjoy whatever happens results wise.
I would suggest people who spend their free time on a rugby league fan site complaining about a sport they seem to no longer like are the real 'mugs'.

Also, to insinuate that Leeds (or any other team) lose a game because they 'switch off during the regular season' knowing they can make up for it come playoff time is damn well disrespectful to those MEN.
Its also damn well disrespectful to the players of Saints, Hudds and Bradford to offer a reason of recent loses to 'Leeds lose because they know it doesn't matter'. Coming up with reasons why a team lose instead of reasons why a team won a game perhaps shows more about your negative way of thinking than it does the current state of Super League.

Leeds continue with the backrow they have and the play offs will be a waste of time this year. It's quite a while since we had such an average starting backrow. No pace, no passing offloading ability. Ablest needs to be back outwide and give a youngster a go until players are back. You need pace in your backrow when your props don't have it either. Their defence is good, not going to take that away from them, but the flow of attack stops there.

Just picking a programme off the pile.

Leeds at home to Sheffield

Gibbons A
Fallon
Iro
Francis
Hassan
Holroyd
Gibbons D
Harvey
Shaw although my notes say Newton
Barrie
Moz
Ming
Forshaw
Golden
Picchi
Mann
Foz

My point being. You're damn right we've seen worse.

I have asked this question before but you didn't answer.

Why do you bother with Super League at all?

If the standard of Rugby served up in SL is substandard and the entire ethos behind the club's marketing and presentation is not to your liking then why do you continually watch and comment on this game.

There are plenty of grass roots clubs that you could affiliate your support with but you continue with Leeds Rhinos, why?

The answer is simple, it's because you don't really believe anything that you post. It is pure vitriol designed to provoke reaction and I honestly believe that a majority of posters have seen through your bitter facade.

I find this post really offensive, are you really saying that becuase I dont live in an LS postcode I shouldn't support Leeds.
I went to my first Leeds game over 25 years ago (Barrow at home in the cup 90-0), and have seen the worst times as well as the recent success.
I have seen many great players don the blue and amber over the years (as well as some terrible).
I was at oldham when we lost in 1996 and I have been to every grand final leeds have played in.
Im a leeds fan becuase my dad is, who in turn went with his dad. I have held a season ticket for years and am a proud southstander.
For a keyboard warrior like your self to criticise loyal fans is a joke.

Swiftcorn reminds me of the little scruffy kid with his nose pressed up against the sweetie shop window, lacking the means to purchase any of the goodies on show, consoles himself by deciding he wouldn't like anything anyway. So there!

He is right though, in that the Rhinos is a commodity brand, and whether its the atmosphere in the Southstand, or any of the matchday catering options, its all marketed as The Headingley Experience. Onfield success simply boosts the brand and hopefully attracts more paying punters, but it's not really the be all and end all that many fans think.

Look at the Bradford Bulls. A below par performance on the field over the last three years hasn't affected the ability to raise 500k for the brand name. And even better for the BOD, it's all donations! There's no need for a new share issue when the gullible obligingly hand over their hard earned in exhange for the continuance of a well promoted brand name.

Now, if there's any Bulls fans interested, I have an iconic and world famous London structure available for a quick Easter sale...... with an extra 10% discount for season ticket holders, or those who Pledged!

The full season ticket is poor value for money, it's discount is such that there are enough freebies and other discounts about that you are better off not getting one.

There is also a fair point to say that the quality of the product on the field makes it difficult to justify to myself in buying one. In recent years I have found the effort put in and the quality on show has been sadly lacking. I'd rather watch a poor side that tries and loses than a good side that doesn't show it's potential and wins. The number of awful teams in the top division doesn't help.

The squad is rarely improved and quality players departing are not replaced. The squad is supposedly good but fails to turn up in the big games (see our results against top 5 sides over the last two seasons) and often loses to the worst teams in the division. The club also prioritises the latter half of the season over the first in stead of looking at every game as important.I see buying a season ticket as endorsing these practices so for me I can't do it. Whilst there are thousands who will pay year in and year out no matter what these practises are unlikely to change.

Hmmm. I don't think he is saying that at all. I think the point he is making is that he chooses which games he wants to watch. He also states, quite clearly that pre Rhinos there was something about being a Leeds fan that has now gone. Something I wholeheartedly agree with. Hence my name on here.
I did not buy into the Rhinos franchise either, and ironically as the Rhinos have become more successful my interest has dissipated. There is no doubt that we have witnessed the greatest period in the clubs history, but I don't feel that the club needs my money anymore, and it shows in the disdain with which the ordinary fan is treated. So now I am at Dewsbury, where money is tight, and the £70 I paid for my season ticket is highly valued by the club, and my money over the bar the same.
Would I pay megabucks to be part of the Leeds Rhinos machine again? No. Am I a Leeds fan, yes, but when Challenge cup weekend comes around it'll be Dewsbury and London for me for the simple reason I feel that the club needs me and that engenders a sense of ownership that I haven't felt for Leeds in a long time.