They have spoke to Castleford and Castleford have rejected the chance, they are now in talks with Featherstone about playing a few of their games at the ground.

Hopefully this will come good because in all fairness the success of their RL teams since JK took over has been getting better and better and as someone else mentioned the playing surface at BV is top quality and hopefully they'll achieve the same at the new ground.

Yes, brings capacity up to 15k and not 18k as I said in my original post. Apparently the Community Foundation would like to find the money to build in the corners straight away, but they do have to find the extra money themselves and the current deal means that they will have the money now, if planning is granted, to build the 12k option straight away.

To answer the other post, the council are not putting any money in at all as such. They have given the Community Foundation the land for nothing and suspect that the deal with the developer is that the council will sell them the land at a reduced market value and then that money is then given by the developer to part fund the stadium.

It is slightly further along near J30 and it is just off Aberford Road, which is the road that links Oulton/Rothwell with Stanley over the M62.

In terms of problems, the issue is planning, but it has to be for the whole development to complete the funding. If they get planning and it does not get called in, they will start on site in April, with the ground itself starting in late 2010.

Got it now - christ those pits took up a lot of room didn't they

Cheers Frosties, hopefully Fev may get involved because I can't see 3 new grounds being built in such close proximity to each other, in fact I'd be amazed if there were 2 never mind 3.

i.e. Walkable for a large number of people.


Give over.
It is a narrow road, I grant you, but I have never had any problems getting there, by car via town (parking the other side of the cemetery) or coming in from the Fev side, or even coming via Durkar, Sandal, Agbrigg way ... or walking from the town centre.


... and therefore further away for everyone else from Manygates, Durkar, Horbury, Ossett, Lupset, Darnley, Agbrigg, Kettlethorpe, Crigglestone etc etc.


I don't.


No idea ... but it can't just be left in a contaminated state, someone must pay for its clean-up anyway ... that's the joined-up thinking bit.

But, anyway, the power station was just one site.


The park and ride sounds a brilliant idea.
Indeed, it's such a good idea that I'm doubtful that Wakefield Council thought of it.

The location will be great for away fans.
Cas fans will almost be able to walk it.

BTW ... You missed one bit from my post ... the bit where I wish them well, I really do.

having seen the plans I withdraw my comments about the town centre, clearly they are building a new town out by the motorway

The site is just up from the road from me and will make perfect sense as Junction 30 is the only undeveloped one from Brighouse to Goole so the land is ripe for some kind of multi-usage.
The one ironic thing is that the newmarket colliery was with the Leeds District until about 15-20 years a go when all of a sudden the boundry was moved from the Moorhouse estate at Stanley and was brought a mile back to the M62!!

Can't argue with that, but your example was Warrington, where they moved the new ground closer to the city centre than Wilderspool



You should try it on a morning or evening then, Chantry Bridge causes Wakefield a real problem and they have just spent millions reconfiguring all the major junctions that converge there, yet again, and it is better but it is still Wakefield's bottle-neck. Not ideal IMO.



Well yeh, that tends to happen when you move something further away from some people and closer to others. I think you are wrong about Ossett BTW, geographically closer, but it is quicker to get to the new site... and why would they go to Belle Vue, they can walk it to Dewsbury Rams from Ossett, far closer!!!



You are entitled to your opinion but why don't you take a look at Google maps and see where the majority of the City of Wakefield population live... would that be north of the river?



Well I can let you into a secret... Wakefield Council or Wakefield Wildcats don't own it. So it is joined up thinking in your book to get someone who does not currently own a site, to buy it, deal with contamination issues and build a ground on it. Yeh, sounds a great idea... shall I tell the Wakefield Council tax paying public or will you do that?

Ok, so what other great sites in the Wakefield District could Wakefield get for free then that are better than this one? You need to be careful not to move to a site west of Belle Vue because that would mean it was getting too close to Dewsbury Rams and east would mean even closer to Featherstone!



Why would it matter if Wakefield Council had or had not thought of it?

Yep, great for away fans and interestingly most Wakey fans think the proposed location is miles better than the current one... traffic problem you see and more of them live on the north side of Wakefield.

Well it's five miles rather than eight from Belle Vue to Cas, so you might have a point but all the Rhinos fans who live in Rothwell, Methley, Woodlesford and Middleton think it is great... they are all closer than Castleford to the new ground. All the Dewsbury fans are gutted though... right hike now!




Yep, that was they only positive point in your post... I believed it... honest!

Closer than HQ for Greg Eastwood,Danny McGuire and Ryan Hall as well!!! They all live in Woodlesford,oh so does Jamie Thackray (The windy f00ker that he is!!)

You are correct it was. The boundary change was hardly all of a sudden though and not without good reason and lots of giving and taking of land between Leeds and Wakefield. They brought the boundary in line with the modern physical boundary created by the M62 along a large stretch of the boundary of Wakefield and Leeds, which was somewhat of a dogs hind-leg really along that edge.

Don't be daft! That would have been the sensible option for two tiny towns within spitting distance of each other covered by the same council. Roma and Lazio did it, Inter and AC did it, but not short-sighted Cas and Wakey. A ground near the M62 between the two towns... what a crazy idea.

Possibly, but Castleford and Featherstone (and they would be two Towns, as opposed to the one City and one Town) are closer together and Dewsbury's Rams built a new ground closer to Wakefield than Wakefield's new ground is to Cas. Do you think Hunslet fans ever wanted to move into Headingley or stay at Ellland Road (although the two sports thing was a problem) because it made sense? Why did Leigh build a new ground rather than move to the Pie Dome... it is only 5 miles away after all?

...because when it all boils down, we are still a little parochial sport where self-interest over-rides the better interest of the sport, and some of those clubs are still run by wealthy local businessmen who forget their business heads when they take on clubs and instead use them as a play-thing, the "local" tag tends to mean that they bring all of their "not over my dead body" attitude to the table when ground-sharing is discussed.

The one interesting thing about this new ground at Wakey is that Maurices plan might be coming to fruition 15 years after he first tried to force it on Wakey/Cas/Fev

I agree with much (all of it really) of your post but I think Wakefield and Castleford find themselves in a current position to potentially both build new grounds on good accessible modern sites. So I can sort of see why Castleford don't want to give up hope quite yet (because after playing their cards close to their chest after the Thornes park mess, Wakey do now look to be in a stronger position with planning the only potential banana skin). Waystone want Castleford to come to Glasshoughton to further develop the site and of course bring more visitors to the current Xscape complex, but if Castleford did not come it would not be the end of the world for them, and I suspect that will be reflected in the level of funding they will be giving to Cas in respect of the build.

The Yorkcourt guys need the stadium to build the rest of a huge development because that is the deal the council/planners are making with them to free up the land for development. Plus they probably sell a hotel and fast-food place just off the back of the ground and being close to the M62. In some ways this is the deal that Cas and Wakey Council should have done at Glasshoughton 10 years ago and they would be in a new ground already... but hindsight is always 20/20.

Poor old Fev don't stand a chance but they should stay in the town and look to gain funding themselves as a community sports body and play a few big games at Wakey or Cas.

If things as Cas start to take a nose dive I am sure the door will stay open in Stanley and it might still happen... we will see! They could both end up with nothing!

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 425048.stm This article states that the hotel will have 15 bedrooms, that can't be right surely? Not much bigger than Ramrod's mansion!!

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west ... 425048.stm This article states that the hotel will have 15 bedrooms, that can't be right surely? Not much bigger than Ramrod's mansion!!

Yep you're right. I can understand that attitude as an initial reaction, but I hoped that as people thought about the pros and cons of a ground share they might have seen the potential benefits, sadly not.

Even clubs with as much rivalry as Liverpool and Everton are seriously considering a ground share.



It could be quite funny given the hostility the idea received at the time!

we have offered the idea to Cas and they dont want it so be it, but i think they will be changing their minds sometime soon

You mean when plans for their new ground falls through and they get threatened with being thrown out of the league?

I think there is a zero missing off the end!

getting to the Newmarjet site will be further but easier for people living on the west side of Wakefield (me).

Straight on the M1 at jtn40, M62 arrive at stadium.

Again for those living in Durkar, Kettlethorpe, Chapplethorpe, Thornes etc. They just jump on the M1 at jcn39.

It's a very easy, straight and uncomplicated journey with less stop start, navigating the shopping districts (Asda etc & Ings Rd).

Upon arriving drivers will face very few if any problems parking which is currently a nightmare at Belle Vue.

The power station site has been cleaned up and decontaminated.

FYI afaIk
Featherstone is a village
Castleford is a Town
Wakefield is a City

Why split hairs???

You still cant polish a turd!!