A poor performance to be honest and lucky to win.

It frustrates me when we die with the ball on the 5th and fail to offload it. Some of Croft's kicks were poor and gave our defence no chance.


I also don't like the lack of captaincy voice with the ref. We need a captain who talks to the referee more and questions why some calls are being made. 


I've always made excuses for Newman but he just isn't performing. Shame McCormack, Simpson and ECW aren't available. I really liked the look of McCormack and Simpson.


Finally JOC's passing is atrocious and probably put us on the back foot a lot of the game. Put Sinfield in ahead of him. He has a nice crisp pass at least.

Jake Connor given a one point penalty warning shot across the bows, FC fans will be up in arms.....

Very good point. You’ve got to keep the officials under constant pressure or they will yield to the loudest and most regular voice, or voices in St Helens case. Of course we would all like to win in a gentlemanly fashion, but there is absolutely no point when every other team is conducting themselves differently to gain an advantage over weak officials. Who can ever forget Mcdonell being sent off for a “ghost” punch on Lomax against Saints simply because Lomax said to the ref “he punched me”.  It’s time to up the psychological warfare on the officials so we are at least competing on a level playing field. What with all the play acting on the field and interventions by coaches off it, there’s absolutely no point in being honest in a dishonest sport.

Anyone know what point in the game this incident was?

Said it earlier in this thread pal.Why is Miller kicking the goals and not Connor who I did say wasn`t brilliant but better than Miller imo.
Only other alternative is to play Sinfield at hooker.
I also said some time ago that maybe Croft replacing Newman and Sinfield/Connor at HB but maybe that`s pushing it too far.

The attempted 'headbutt'

Yes, what point in the game was it?

Answer my own question: 15:46 in.

Agree with Connor vs Miller and not at all sure why the change. Wouldn't disagree with Sinfield suggestion. The lack of goal kicking consistency will cost us down the line. 

Didn't Asiata throw a punch right at the end. Seems to have gotten away with that in the match review panel too

Couldn't get to the game but watched it on Sky, agree with a lot of the comments on here. Can't understand the negativity Croft gets.. it's almost 'fashinable' to criticise him.. he's just come back from injury for goodness sake... ridiculous. Newman needs to shape up or we need to get rid.. it's a difficult one though as he's home grown.. 

We need a better 9 to take us to the next level and a goal kicker. Also Watkins is levels above Smith... show's us what a top class player is and what we've been missing in the back row.. he's miles better than Smith at 13 and he can still play centre at a good level.


A big win.