Probably TNW, Edgell, Clark-Wood and Sinfield to miss out. I would like Lisone and Frawley to miss out but I can't see it. I also would prefer Handley at winger but again I can't see it.

  Very true, but Peet seems to be getting a lot more out of 'the likes of Leeming' than Leeds did.  Dwyer is also going better now at Leigh too, broadbent seems well liked at KR and progressing well, Sezer did relatively well at wests and now at Hull, and Corey Hall even looks like hes coming on. I'm sure I've missed a few there too.  

What is the perpetual problem at Leeds...

Improve team ethos?!  Noooooo I won't have that! Do wigan burn sentimental stuff in a bin and stick it do an effigy of their club mascot?! Nope, but we do! 

Sounds like an exam question for a masters degree. Discuss in no more than 10 thousand words. My feeling is that we've let things slip through a number of unambitious and unspired coach appointments at all levels of the club. Blease and Arthur were a huge leap in the right direction and despite the mixed start to 25 I think things are changing for the better. You posted somewhere about being worried about recruitment given the uncertainty around Arthur's future. I couldn't reply because the site is very wobbly, but my view is that whether he stays or not we should commit to the intensley physical style he wants us to play and recruit players with that in mind. Any potential incoming coach could make a choice on that basis.

It's a good question - I think a lack of strategy and consistency has massively hampered us in the rugby department. We've been thinking too short term, and not competed enough at bringing the best juniors through the system. In a sense, I think Frawley is clearly a stop gap signing to allow one of our junior halves to come through without being such a big signing to block them. 

In terms of coaching we've gone from the strange David Furner spell, to JJB as caretaker, to Agar as temporary, to Agar as potential DOR then leaving, then the absolute massive gamble of Rohan Smith, and now we have Arthur who we know doesn't want to stick around.

Every coach has to 'build their own squad', those squads need to settle and 'gel' and the short termism doesn't leave room for integrating junior players into the set-up. 


I'm hoping having Blease settles things down in that regard, but we definitely need more clear direction with how we recruit and bring through players, and make it clear to whatever coach succeeds Arthur that they will largely have to improve players we already have supplemented by a few signings to add quality.

Miller
Hall 
Newman 
Handley 
Lumb 
Connor 
Croft 
Oledszki 
O'Connor 
Jenkins 
Bentley 
Gannon
Palasia 


Frawley 
Holroyd 
TNW
McDonnell 


Dropping out, 
Lisone 
Edgell 
Sinfield 
Vickery

I never thought Leeming was that bad for Leeds, personally. I think he was, and still is better than Andy Ackers

Great post and agree totally. 

Same. He was the best 9 we've had for a few years imo. We didn't do our job getting the best out of him. 

Leeming seemed better at 7 than 9 for Leeds and had issues with his defence and distribution. And he obviously looks good with a better side around him. That said, I would have preferred to keep him at Leeds.


Not sure if Leeming is better than Ackers. Leeds version of Leeming on a good day is probably better than the Leeds version of Ackers. But I think Ackers is the more complete 9 - such a shame he hasn't really clicked at Leeds yet. Perhaps it is too soon to write him off, and that he will be better when (if!) the team settles to the way Arthur wants them to play.

yeah i think Ackers and Croft need more time yet.. and they need a much better pack to play with.