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| I thought Oledski and Jenkins were excellent probably the best two props on the pitch
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| It’s nearly always the high earners and big signings that are under performing ever week. Why does O’Connor get dropped and not the dire Ackers.
Arthur needs to start dropping the likes of Croft, Ackers, Newman, lisone, Frawley, Bentley.
Keep respecting the same mistakes get the same results.
We cannot compete with Wigan next week, let’s give the fringe players some game time see what they can do.
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| rollin thunder:
It’s nearly always the high earners and big signings that are under performing ever week. Why does O’Connor get dropped and not the dire Ackers.
Arthur needs to start dropping the likes of Croft, Ackers, Newman, lisone, Frawley, Bentley.
Keep respecting the same mistakes get the same results.
We cannot compete with Wigan next week, let’s give the fringe players some game time see what they can do.
Not sure why you’re picking Newman and Bentley out, they both played well yesterday. Surrendering the Wigan game is just daft. It’s arguably the best fixture to have after last nights game. The team needs stability not chopping and changing
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| Didn’t think Newman did anything special last night, scored a try whoo hoo. He’s been dire for too long now.
What did Bentley do last night of note. Abysmally small for Super League level. Drops the ball a lot, penalty machine, makes little yards, no pace,. doesn’t make breaks. in his fourth season here and had about 3 good games ever.
Players like both the above are why we are where we are, neither would get anywhere near a place in golden era sides and neither would get in any top. 6 super clubs. Our basic quality of player is sub std. the reason year in year we keep failing is fundamentally our squad is low quality, mesmerising to think we are allergy at full capacity.
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| rollin thunder:
Didn’t think Newman did anything special last night, scored a try whoo hoo. He’s been dire for too long now.
What did Bentley do last night of note. Abysmally small for Super League level. Drops the ball a lot, penalty machine, makes little yards, no pace,. doesn’t make breaks. in his fourth season here and had about 3 good games ever.
Players like both the above are why we are where we are, neither would get anywhere near a place in golden era sides and neither would get in any top. 6 super clubs. Our basic quality of player is sub std. the reason year in year we keep failing is fundamentally our squad is low quality, mesmerising to think we are allergy at full capacity.
Harry Newman is the incumbent England Centre, to say he wouldn’t get into a top Six SL side is ridiculous.
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| I agree both Newman and Bentley probably 2 of our best players. Connor should play in the halves but does lack pace. Holroyd in for Lisone and O`Connor for Ackers the only changes for me.
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| Thought we matched them, and for large parts, got the better of them, in the physical battle.
Big difference was the intelligence.
Sam Lisone, already been highlighted, James McDonnell with yet another stupid, pointless PTB penalty, deep in their territory, he does it every game, and its bloody infuriating.
Overall though, thought it was a good battle, unfortunately we seem to be cursed with idiotic moments and no attacking structure
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| It seems that we always bemoan the lack of attacking structure no matter who the coach is. The same complaints were made when McClelland, McDermott, Agar, and Rohan were all here. It makes you wonder if it's actually primarily a coaching issue.
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| I feel sorry for BA - he has come from a competition/culture of professionalism. Where players focus on core attributes of fitness and basic skills.
Sadly the players in the SL don't have these attributes. Week after week we see players miss tackles drop balls show a distinct inability to run practiced plays and run out of gas early.
It is no surprise that England have improved with the addition of more NRL players. Until we have more competition for places and a stronger player pool this apathy will continue. Players know they will get picked every week regardless of how fit they are or how well they play
The standards of skill and fitness in SL are shocking and when compared to the NRL - where BA has previously worked - it is a pale shadow of the latter. It is no shock how few SL raised players are wanted and are successful in the NRL
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| Lisone has been a massive let down, was hoping for the next Kylie , got the next Feather instead.
I know I and others keep saying it but we really need a big meter munching wrecking ball prop. That would allow one of Jenkins or Palasia to move to back row with Gannon / Mcdonnell/ Bentley etc.
We could have the world's best HBs abd we would still not make a difference until we can get those hard yards abd quick PTBs going
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