100% this I shudder to the thought of any of our forwards going up against the likes of JWH Burgess next season

Who ever picks Fusitua or the Momster( god only knows how he got that moniker) before the academy boys needs the biggest boot up their bottom.

I'd add that his place kicking is the best that we have at the club, and that he's very direct at taking on the line. He scores a lot of tries at Academy and Reserves level because of this. Ultimately though, it's up to him. He only turned 20 yesterday so he has bags of time left in the game, but it feels like the off season and 2025 is a crunch time for him. Frawley is out of contract at the end of the year and the club may be in a situation where they have to make a decision on using a quota spot to land a new half. If Jack can make a case for giving him a real go it would be great for us.

What would help sinfields development would be if he could play a game more than every few weeks at any level. He must have played less than a dozen games al year, not a great basis to judge what he might be capable of. If he doesn't play great coming in to the first team off the back of been sat on his hands well no sht (especially as a half). The set up of the game lets young lads down

It’s not like young Sinfield has been sat waiting behind a star performer. Frawley has been most of the time poor, a lot of the time abject, and very occasionally half decent. If they had been brave enough to drop an underperforming Frawley for more than the odd game we might have seen a progression and had more of a clue about young Jack. It’s been a season wasted for Jack, the club and the fans.

Sinfield jnr should have had a year on loan in the championship. Would do him wonders

I'm sure a championship club would be delighted to have him for a year, but they'd want him for all of it. No recall if Croft or Frawley got injured. We just don't have the depth at half to do that. Catch 22.

Agree , we desperately need a goal kicker and an open field kicker next season, so it’s there for young Sinfield to put pressure on Frawley.

As I watched the game at KR one other thought went through my mind , given we are losing one of the best if not the best goal kicker , do we go for Sneyd for a year or 2 .

He ‘s played with Croft and Ackers, he’s the other top goal kicker in SL and his open field kicking is way better than what we have now.

Frawley tries hard and is a good defender but he plays exactly the same game every week, once you work out not to fall for the dummy, it’s a mix of drop offs and poor kicks.

Maybe we are better just hoping Jack can come through over next 2 years.

I hope you are right about the 3 who might leave.

I don't have an issue with any one person at the club - any rational person can see the youth development at Leeds isn't producing the quantity or quality of youngsters it should. You cannot defend the indefensible. Leeds haven't produced a half back for nearly 20 years - you applaud that? Compare what has come out of Saints and Wigan in the last 10 years to what has come out of Leeds - its embarrassing to compare. I am not the only one on here suggesting this isn't working - you need to get your head out of the sand and see things for what they are.

If Leeds had more homegrown talent of the appropriate quality we would not need 8/9 very average overseas players. Again compare the quality of overseas at Wigan & Saints to Leeds and ask yourself why this is.

If those 3 leave, then that would be Fusitua, Martin, Donaldson, Roberts, Johnson, Hudson, Sangare, Goudemand, Momirovski. A huge amount of cap space and 9 players. Incoming so far is only Hall, so barely moves the dial.

I don't believe for a single second that we are close to the cap limit including all the workarounds, there's plenty of space left to improve the team. If we were only to bring 3 more players in, they should be first class quality and even then it would mean promoting 5 more from the youth set up. The numbers don't add up at a basic level for us not to bring in more players, question is will they be the right quality because the Board will the spend?

Oh and don't forget Myler and Olpherts who left very late in the day last year...

Arthur said in his post match press conference that this week would be review, followed by a week of pre-season before they break. My reading of that is that this is the week where some frank discussions with contracted staff (including coaches) might occur.