Defence is all about attitude.

3 games, 22, 32 and 38 conceded. Says everything about this side at the moment.

A significant number of this squad need shipping out come October as their attitude stinks.

The kid is 18, he will make mistakes, he has bags of potential but he is playing one of the most difficult positions behind a team with no desire to do the hard work, Walker is the least of our problems.

Cuthbertson wouldn't look out of place playing in the womens' team, never mind coaching it.

Cuthbo is a busted flush. He's done. I'll never get over us giving this guy a new 2yr deal

When we played Hull away, when they scored a last minute drop goal to win. They started their set on the half way line, all we needed was an effort in defence, 2 tackles later, there 10m from our line, infront of the sticks, they slotted the drop goal over and won the game. I had thoughts then that the attitude and quality of the squad was done.

It was a disgusting effort. A big clear out is required but I’ve no faith whatsoever that quality replacements will be brought in.

Im not sure we need the massive personnel changes that some are saying to get us back on track - we need a decent coach for a start.

Did Saints have a massive clearout, or Warrington or Catalan?

I do think Sinfield is a good appointment but we need a proper head coach which i think will happen and we’ll see a big change in attitude next year - if we stay up that is.

Have to agree there, he hasn't hit the heights of 2015 that first year but even then he was only able to do that really because JP on his own was 3/4 of the front row and allowed him to be that extra off loading dimension without having other burdens. When asked to become a front row leader he hasn't been able to step up but isn't alone in that regard.

Too many players in their 30's getting extensions now when they are little more than SL plodders at best its depressing. JJB, Ablett, Delaney would all be patted on the back and thanked for their service but moved on after this year for me.

The coach is the big thing i agree, but a massive phasing out has to be done.in this day and age it can't be done in one off season but over the next 2/3 years massive changes have to happen, many of that squad are either not good enough and never will be, or past it now.

It should have already happened or at least be 2/3 starting players down the line.

Oh I agree we need a phasing out and some new players in but realistically that isn’t going to happen for next year i agree a 2/3 year timeline is about right but just signing players alone won’t get us back on track, the culture looks like it needs refocusing and I think Sinfield can do that with a bit of time.

I really was hoping to scrape into the top 8, I think it would have made the transition a bit easier with some pressure off.

Not a lot (if any) improvement on the field since McDermott's sacking. In fact you could argue our defence has got worse.

I thought at the time (and more so now given post McDermott 'performances' that the timing of his sacking was odd.

if GH wasn't going to pull the trigger earlier, surely it would have been better timing at the end of this season?

Surely if you are going to sack a coach when we did, you do it in the knowledge you have a better candidate to come in immediately?

Whilst bringing Sir Kev in as Director of Rugby appeared a smart move, having Lowes as coach didn't and still doesn't

Lowes was sacked at Warrington and was coach when Bradford got relegated from SL. He was never the quality of coach to bring in when it was looking likely we'd be in the middle 8's dog fight

Surely, IF we had no Aussie coach lined up to take over immediately it would have made sense to stick with McDermott until a 'proper' successor could be found in the close season??

For all his faults McDermott had been a winner and has sailed the middle 8 ship before yet we dumped that for a bloke who has won nothing as a coach and someone who has never coached before and who previously said he had no coaching aspirations.

As the weeks go by the decision made by GH (more so the timing of it) is looking poor IMO

A campaign in the middle 8's was not something to put in the hands of a rookie coaching team like this