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| Think both should be in the 17. Could Jimmy not play left second row?
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| Sutcliffe seems to be getting a lot of stick but remember he came up with the game winning try in the semi final last year and had a really good game in the GF, forcing a few drop outs.
Would probably have both in the 17, maybe starting Sutcliffe at centre and bringing Jimmy off the bench and moving Sutcliffe to back row.
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| I understand that at least 2 clubs are looking at Keinhorst and Leeds are not likely to stand in his way if he wants to move on. Don't know which clubs but Wakey and Hull KR are possibles. However, worth pointing out that was the position before Leeds started suffering the injury problems. Could do with Ferres and Galloway back soon.
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| Quote Mark Laurie="Mark Laurie"I understand that at least 2 clubs are looking at Keinhorst and Leeds are not likely to stand in his way if he wants to move on. Don't know which clubs but Wakey and Hull KR are possibles. However, worth pointing out that was the position before Leeds started suffering the injury problems. Could do with Ferres and Galloway back soon.'"
I'd be sorry to see him leave, I think he gives depth to our squad. But if he gets the offer of a decent salary and the probability of a starting berh else where, who could blame him for giving it a go.
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| Leeds have turned down offers from unnamed clubs for Keinhorst already this year. He’s out of contract at the end of the season and he is uncertain his future is with Leeds. League express reports.
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| well he wont be on top $ at Leeds so I bet he would double his money with a move unless Gary makes him a good offer
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| Most people were happy with Sutcliffe at centre at the end of last season. One game against the team coming up from the lower division and Keinhorst is suddenly preferred?
I agree with the comments praising Keinhorst's various attributes for playing centre, but I think his deficiencies are being ignored. IMO he isn't big or fast enough to play there for Leeds longer term. No reason we can't keep both in the squad for the time being.
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| If you are looking at a centre with pace then Sutcliffe isn`t the answer either.
Yes he has size but Keinhorst has more desire and for me more of a rugby brain.
As it stands Moon is a better centre option than the other two and Moon is a better SO option that Sutcliffe.
I think for the WCC Sutcliffe could be on the bench to come on as a BR with Keinhorst preferred at LC.
Like many have said though it would be a shame to let either leave unless Moon moves back to LC to give us an attacking threat and Golding or Walker move to HB.
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| I agree about Keinhorst, a much better centre than Sutcliffe. It seems to me that nobody wants to lose face at HQ after everyone tipping him to be the next Sir Kevin but unfortunately every position he's been tried in he's not been able to hold his place. Jimmy is far ball in hand and he does put some grunt into his tackling. Sutcliffe seems a nice lad but thats probably his biggest problem
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| Quote cosworth="cosworth"I agree about Keinhorst, a much better centre than Sutcliffe. It seems to me that nobody wants to lose face at HQ after everyone tipping him to be the next Sir Kevin but unfortunately every position he's been tried in he's not been able to hold his place. Jimmy is far ball in hand and he does put some grunt into his tackling. Sutcliffe seems a nice lad but thats probably his biggest problem'"
i am a fan of sutcliffe but he is starting to look like a bit of a dud, as you say does not look really strong in any position, looking like a lee Gaskel type player. possible an average super league player but could be great at championship. hope i am wrong, but he is not living up to his early potential at all. so for me on current form it has to be Jimmy sutcliffe on bench and have to fight for his place back. which might be a good thing might be the kick up he needs.
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| Sutcliffe’s still relatively inexperienced in terms of appearances. I think he’s a decent member of your squad. Surely competition for places is good? While he and Keinhorst battle it out it’s better for the team. I think it’s early to be saying either of them are duds. You can’t have superstars in every position nowadays.
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