Nobody can be in any doubts about the way the likes of Delaney and JJB have performed season after season,but think Leeds squad needs a serious shake up a bit like what Warrington have done this season.possibly even more drastic,just can't see McDermott pushing through the next crop of young talent through youth system to replace the likes of JJB,Delaney,burrow.if falloons or galloways performances don't improve over the season then cut our losses and get rid,Anthony mullally needs to improve fitness and be coached more in the Leeds way,way things are going cuthbertson and Garbutt are going to be goosed by mid season,singleton needs to push on now from last season and establish himself as first choice and hopefully get stevie ward back and fit in near future.after watching the way we were brushed aside by hull Kr,it needs everyone in the squad who's available to man up and be counted.if they not capable of it then get some who are next season.cant see anything changing either personnel wise or coaching wise this season no matter how bad it gets.

I think this is the major problem. Some players are making noises about how they're ripping into training. However, firstly it doesn't look like on game day. Secondly, just ripping into training is a bit of a simplistic approach to getting out of a slump, you need to be a bit smarter and honest with yourself than that. Thirdly I doubt they actually are ripping in in training when so many players are actually missing training during the week and they're struggling for bodies on the training pitch.

We saw against NQC when their was something to play for the effort was there. Yes it got out of hand in the 2nd half with the score line but you can't fault the effort for the first 40 and if they produced an effort like that most weeks we'd have won a lot more games this year.

I know the feeling of plenty of fans was that they weren't bothered if we didn't do anything this season because last season was so good (which is perfectly understandable).....however it seems like the players have taken the same mindset "oh we did so well last year we'll take it easy this year". They simply don't look like they're determined or desperate to retain their trophies. It will be very interesting to see how we perform in the cup when it comes around and how/if it compares to the league showings.

There's a difference isn't there between having a slightly down year, which for us means not winning anything, while we bed in new players and theoretically get better as the season goes on, and what we are seeing now. If anything we seem to be going backwards game by game and the transition might actually occur at best next season.

As a fan I was hopeful of the former situation, never did I expect the latter, not to this extent.

Is it time for the glove to return?

Don't like to tell you you're wrong but you're wrong. The player who said it has been a first team regular during our successful period

Who?