I know we did a lot of defending but we don't look fit in my opinion and I'm really starting how much of an effect loosing kirkstall has actually had.

In addition, it's not often I'll criticise McDermott and his interchanges because he's paid to do the job and he's better qualified than me to make those calls, but I cannot for the life of me figure out why Achurch stayed on that pitch for so long, the bloke was dead on his feet, I've give him some stick over the last year but tonight for me anything he did wrong wasn't his fault he should have been changed, the amount of times sat behind those sticks tonight I saw Achurch on the floor blowing was ridiculous!

Don't forget SPOTY.

And the Kiwis.

Listen to Wiliam people, he once posted this nugget of great knowledge in July 2011....

"It's a tired, over-the-hill squad at Leeds that's been in decline for several seasons. The amount of indiscipline they are exhibiting is a reaction from a squad of players who were used to winning silverware and having things their own way but no longer are. They all know this, but it's easier to whine, chelp, niggle, get penalised, blame the ref, blame anyone or anything but themselves. They are no longer fit for the purpose.

The time for sentiment is over.

Reason must prevail instead.

This squad is finished as a competitive entity and there should be no further contract renewals for any of them.

It's time to move on."

....and he was completely right......that is if you ignore the 3 GF's, 2 CC's, 1 WCC and 1 LLS which included a treble that all occured after his bold claim with the same core to the team



Honestly, he's knowledgable

While Keinhorst and Jones-Buchanan were almost the only Leeds players to come out of the game with any credit - their combined effort for the Gelling try had to be seen to be believed.

Conceding that try and the fifth tackle options highlight how Leeds are a shambles at present.

Tvoc coming online just after William.....again....after they disappeared and reappeared at the same time....nudge nudge wink wink

Why the personal insults? anyone would think you were John Holmes they way you carry on

You are delusional.

Positives:
Keinhorst - proving his worth as a squad player. Not the most skillful but makes up for that with high workrate and good defence.
Falloon - we looked better going forward and it was obvious to see the difference a proper hooker makes.
JJB - his speed in both attack and defence will be useful
Effort was excellent in defence but not directed in the right way.
Also pleased we're still determined and seem able to throw the ball around. That will pay dividends later in the season when we regain some form.

Negatives:
Everything else.
McDermott was right, the Sky lot were praising Leeds defence when I thought it was awful. Poor kick chase combined with poor contact in the tackle meant Wigan made loads of easy metres and made numerous breaks through weak contact and quick play the balls. It was only pure effort and poor Wigan attack that kept us in it.
Whilst I've named JJB as a positive it was entirely his fault for Wigan's try from the tap, he came flying out of the line and got caught out by a simple dummy run that left a huge gap in our defence.
Our 5th tackle plays are still rubbish. We've never been good on the 5th tackle except for on Grand Final day but we're particularly bad at the moment.


I have utterly no idea what game Eddie Hemmings was watching when he praised Wigan's attack and Leeds defence, if any evidence were needed that he hasn't actually paid attention to what's going on in RL over the last 20 years then that was it. Time to go, Eddie.

I await you asking William the same question for this retort to another poster on a different thread

"You thick, Stupor League t"

.....come on Sal, ask him why the insults too?

Leave him be Sal.

It'll be the SSRIs he's on.

Strange to select their 5th (71st minute) last try to criticise, when the game was well and truly lost. Stranger still to be selective in highlighting mistakes from two of our best players who had run themselves into the ground, while excluding Hardaker's missed tackle in "their combined effort" for the same try or indeed some of the other missed tackles that led to most of the other tries.