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All this coming from a team with Ryan Bailey in it, Bridge doesn't have a bed disciplinary record at Warrington atall. It was a silly tackle and at the time I thought he was off, If Tommy Lee can get off with just a one match ban for his attempted decapitation of Lee Briers then i think Chris will be fine.

He's devastating with ball in hand, has fantastic footwork and is an aggressive defender...Shouldn't be too long until his younger brother is in our first team,the future is good!

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Quote: Omar Little "Rule one of precendents - the facts and issues have to be substantially the same...rlBailey/Fasavalu was not foul play because Fasavalu ducked into the tacklerl
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In any case where has this idea that Shoulder charges can't also be high tackles come from. It has no basis in the laws of the game which state that it is foul play if "when effecting or attempting to effect a tackle makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent intentionally, recklessly or carelessly".


In Bailey/Fasavalu there was no intentional, reckless or careless contact with the head. I don't accept that as being the same for Moa.

I disagree this is exactly why it was a reckless tackle. Moa could see how tall Rinaldi was and therefore should have adjusted his technique accordingly. He made no attempt whatsoever to bring his shoulder below Rinaldi's head height which to me is at best careless and more probably reckless. [EDIT ]


Also on this basis wouldn't any high tackle on Rob Burrow be fair game as anyone else would have been fine?!

Why then are high tackles constantly still given when a player ducks into a tackle, granted it is hard to judge. Both cases are a shoulder barge which connected to the head, one was a red one was not.

You've got me there, I'm going off personal experience and the fact that I hadnt really seen a shoulder barge, even to the head penalised

He could have done, but having the choice of hitting him, or adjusting on the fly and probably missing most players would hit him ten times out of ten. A guilty plea no doubt makes his sentence less severe

Of course burrow is not fair game. The point I was trying to say was had it hit a forward or someone who would not have been ko'd it would not have been a red.

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Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "Why then are high tackles constantly still given when a player ducks into a tackle, granted it is hard to judge. Both cases are a shoulder barge which connected to the head, one was a red one was not.'"


I have no idea - they're not really reckless, careless or intentional icon_confused.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Steve-O "Brett Ferres also got 1 match for admitting dangerous contact with Jay Pitts'"


What's "dangerous contract"...it sounds like something John Hopoate would do icon_ass.gif icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Omar Little "What's "dangerous contract"...it sounds like something John Hopoate would do
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Not sure about "dangerous contracts" - which I think may be similar to the one the Bulls signed with Iestyn Harris.

I expect "dangerous contact" could cover anything with an unacceptably high risk of infection.

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Saw two more simmilair incidents this weekend.

Westwood on webb, which webby was wrongly penalised for thanks to the touch judge.

Sammut also did one in tonights game but was penalised with help from a touch judge.

Both should get 1 match bans. Refs should be on the look out for this as it is something that has come to the fore, a bit like the grapple tackle a few seasons back

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