Quote: DHM "He's no Gareth Ellis. Wouldn't have been on my list of English players I would have liked to see in a Leeds shirt. I can't ever say I've watched him and thought he was playing well o0r standing out.
I can see why Hull might sign him though.'"
He could quite easily have become a Gareth Ellis though in the right environment. Infact he certainly has a better rugby brain than Ellis and better hands. So if you could have given him Ellis's strength and punishing defence, that would have been one hell of a player. Doesn't have Ellis's attitude and professionalism though which is a huge problem, he is off the boil outside the game and needed to go to a bigger club to get him back on track.
I have seen him play many times, and still believed what I have thought for last 4 years, that if he was in the right environment he would be better than Paul Sculthorpe, but can't see it now.
I hope it works out for him, but IMO the set up at Hull will not see him advance any further, as the drinking culture there is as bad as anywhere else. I personally think the lads made a big mistake, but will wait to be proved wrong.
I know for a fact that he was on Leeds radar, but they were looking for 2012 at the end of his contract next year, not now.