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| Quote: deeHell "It's not the same it though Pyeman! I'd rather us be playing right in Wakefield, Durker/Thornes Park but that wasn't to be. Now we have to compromise and move practically outside of town to edge of Stanley. The distance between Wakefield centre and Cas centre to Newmarket is near equal. If we have to share at any the only fair answer would be Newmarket, it would involve both teams moving a distance from their supporter base but that called compromise. Sharing at Glasshoughton would only benefit Cas Tigers, Newmarket would be a fair compromise.'"
Newmarket within the city boundaries a fair compromise .............................. are you mad ???????
What exactly would wakey bring financially to a share option or worse ????
Ground to sell ??? Assetts ??? thats a big fat zero then , unless you count the famous collection buckets, but even they must be wearing out by now
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| Quote: pyeman "Think you are right about the boundary changes, shame really i think most of the people of cas would jump at the chance to be part of selby council district instead of wakey.'"
I wonder what they think in Selby
As for Neverdid - I expect your username is based on your contribution to thinking rationally.
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| Quote: wakeyrule "I wonder what they think in Selby
Think they would be pretty up for it, there are lot of family and social ties between selby and cas, theres a much better relationship between cas and selby than cas and wakey. They would benefit alot by having a greater population and greater tax income in there district. They only ones who would stand to lose would be wmdc.
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| Quote: neverdid "
I'll try but i think it will be a waste of breath.
Certainly no intention of mischief on my behalf, i think there is always room for debate on such topics and i have tried to be balanced on both ours and this forum.
Scroungers? i dont understand.
Planning permission, we are on with it, i think its been put in, we are just awaiting the outcome and then the work should take about a month i believe.
GH being built before NM....collection buckets etc etc. Who knows, judging by the standard of your post, clearly you don't. FWIW i hope we both end up where we want to be, and sooner rather than later.
Castleford will never share..... you certainly dont speak for the club and all of its supporters (i'm sure they are mostly glad of it), as it doesnt appear to be your strongest suit.
Time will tell, but there is little harm in reasoned discussion on the subject.
Thanks for your contribution, its been emotional.
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| Quote: wakeyrule "I wonder what they think in Selby
There is a very large following of Cas fans in Selby, it would be great for the area
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| Quote: kinleycat "
Bless you , the unwashed always try to appear aloof when on the back foot and you are a prime example, How i wish the welsh experiment had continued and then you would be in your rightful place.
Bring on chissit instead of this halfwit lightweight
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| Quote: neverdid "
Articulate isn't the same as aloof, only in the minds of the simple.
If the welsh experiment had worked, you may well have wished it hadn't , and for two reasons.
1) the RFL would have though it will work in Scotland and Ireland too, then another team in France, and that could've been the death knell for other historic clubs, including yours!
2) it would have been finely balanced as to who went, my money's on crusaders going anyway, but theres no guarantee that it wasn't either of us.
Unlike most cas fans who have entered into this debate, you appear to have something of a chip on your shoulder and seem incapable of rational conversation.
I shall leave you to continue in your Ill judged and stunted manner, name calling etc (very brave) and wish you well.
Good day.
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| Quote: kinleycat "
What did you expect when the original question was so antagonistic even though you tried to claim in your opening sentence that this is not what you intended. The whole debate has been gone through a million times and there is not going to be a winner no matter how times you try and resurect it. We are Cas, you are Wakey, never the twain shall meet.
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| Quote: Big Man "
I know it's hardly scientific but almost half of the people who voted disagree with you, and a hell of a lot more than that over on our forum.
I can think of one main reason not to ground share, merger!!
I can think of numerous reasons why both clubs could as well.
At the end of the day, and for whatever reason, we may end up without a choice, none of us know what's around the corner.
I am just pleasantly surprised that the feckless self appointed "big mouths" who shout (on behalf of their clubs and its support) the loudest and bang the drum, are in a minority at least as far this poll has been concerned.
I always laugh at people who shout, "it'll never happen" and "over my dead body" etc, as they are often the ones whos attitudes end up killing what they claim to love.
I'm not saying I'm 100% in support, but the common sense in me can see under certain situations it COULD be the best solution or at least the BEST of a bad situation, however under other situations, it's a no!!!
It seems that quite a few others would agree, and therefore it has IMO been a worthwhile exercise.
And perhaps it may highlight to others that they have a valid view and just because other shout louder, doesn't mean they don't have a voice.
All IMveryhumbleO of course.
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| Quote: kinleycat "
I still dont see how such an arrangement could possibly benefit cas KC, if it were for just a season cas would be better off staying at WR as to move our entire infrastructure, lose matchday income and have a significant drop in attendances (look how saints have dropped and there going to widnes was much more popular than us going NM would ever be) would be a huge financial burden, the rfl would see that they dont want to weaken clubs for the sake of one year of box ticking. The only people to benefit would be however ends up with the rent money and who will that be and what would they do with it are unanswered questions. If it were for longer than a year then it will either end up as merger or one club going bust.
Us using newmarket makes as much sense as you sharing GH ie not much
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| Quote: pyeman "
If all goes well mate, it won't have to happen, but both of us have failed to deliver, and the bit in the franchise announcement regarding the possible revocation of licences within the three year period, got me thinking.
I accept it may not be to Cas' financial advantage, it was more about the attitude of the club and fans about doing something it would obviously prefer not to do, under a set of circumstances, but prolonging life in SL or wether other options, perhaps more draconian or harder over the short term would be more preferable.
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| Quote: kinleycat "
Cas dont have much money, we never have had, we spend within our means, the hundreds of thousands of pounds we would lose if we moved to newmarket would probably see us go bust.
As long as we have a ground we own we will always have a future, without one we could easily fall in to oblivion. For either club sharing would be suicide imo, even for a year.
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| Quote: pyeman "
Ok, so if it now came down to a simple decision, the RFL are playing hard ball and they say to RW "your ground isn't coming on fast enough and we think x club in the championship should be looked at".
What do you do, stay at WR and go out of SL or look at a groundshare at wherever and stay in SL?
Which loses you the least?
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| Quote: kinleycat "
Going down to the championship, we have survived it before and the outgoings are considerably less. Trying to staying in the sl with a massive drop in crowds and income would very likely see us go bust.
I can cope with watching cas in a lower league, i cant cope with the club ceasing to exist.
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| Quote: pyeman "
I agree 100% with the sentiment of your final statement, however going down now, with no guarantee of returning, unlike previously, could equally be terminal news.
Unless real money is invested in RL below SL level, life is going to get very grim.
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