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| Quote: Junglefever "O/T I know but the boundary changes your talking about (if they are approved) are for MP only, the local council responsibility for Cas would still lie with WMDC.
Personally I wouldn't want to share as imo it brings us one step closer to what I and a lot of others fought against with fans from the other two clubs across the district. As soon as we start sharing the will be doing nothing but spouting the 'M' word, trying to cajole the two clubs to become one.'"
Think you are right about the boundary changes, shame really i think most of the people of cas would jump at the chance to be part of selby council district instead of wakey. |
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| Quote: Tigerade "The BOD at Tigers know how unpopular a move to Newmarket would be with the fans - even if only for a season. I personally think if we were to groundshare until the stadium at Glasshoughton was built we would go to Doncaster or even a re-vamped Post Office Road. All this tripe about "NM is nearly an equal distance between Wakey and Castleford" will not wash with the Tigers faithful - our BOD know that.
I get the feeling from some people involved at WTW that the club are desparate for a co-tennant even as far as to say without one there will be no new stadium at Newmarket.'"
I think in part, you've hit the nail on the head, perceived popularity!
But lets just say (hypotheticaly) that a problem arose with GH, affecting the short term. Not long enough to worry cas, but long enough to worry the RFL.
Would cas (the fans or the club) prefer to travel further rather than IF NM is built, go there?
I agree long term, the paranoid Kinleycat, would be expecting the M word to come from on high the RFL, so i wouldn't, nor would i expect anyone at WTW to support such a long term move.
On the other hand, it would benefit financially both clubs and sets of supporters, and i do believe (and if i'm honest i thought that ground share,was the original idea when NM was first mooted) it is a very sensible project in a very sensible area. |
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| Quote: kinleycat "I think in part, you've hit the nail on the head, perceived popularity!
But lets just say (hypotheticaly) that a problem arose with GH, affecting the short term. Not long enough to worry cas, but long enough to worry the .
Would cas (the fans or the club) prefer to travel further rather than IF NM is built, go there?
I agree long term, the paranoid Kinleycat, would be expecting the M word to come from on high the RFL, so i wouldn't, nor would i expect anyone at WTW to support such a long term move.
On the other hand, it would benefit financially both clubs and sets of supporters, and i do believe (and if i'm honest i thought that ground share,was the original idea when NM was first mooted) it is a very sensible project in a very sensible area.'"
If cas fans had to travel most i'm sure would prefer doncaster, never heard a cas fan have a bad word to say about the ground and if every 'home' game becomes an away one we might as well go to a ground we all like. Wouldnt bother with newmarket doubt i could be bothered to spend the money traveling to every 'home' game if we had to go there, anyway as mentioned the cas bod know moving there, even for a season is a licence to lose money, how many rl teams have moved to a ground outside there home town and not decreased there support? I know you dont have any choice about where you have to move to but even for yourselves i can see you getting thousands less at newmarket than you would at a new stadium actually inside wakefield. Also who would financially benefit from cas sharing at new market? not cas obviously we lose money from matchday revenue and have to pay rent, who would get that rent money and what would they do with it. Sorry KC but you've got yourself a complete and utter non starter here. |
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| Quote: bren2k "Which proves that your original out of context mis-quote was, at best, an act of childish mischief designed to play to the gallery, or at worst, a dishonest attempt to highlight a point that I never made in the first place.
Totally wrong pussy, the only act of childish mischief is the original post, the scroungers should not even be in Superleague and as for belle vue or whatever you lot call it now, wheres the promised improvements ?????
Glasshoughton will be built and then your lot will be around with the collection buckets again, havent you noticed, Yorkcourt have gone all quiet about the stadium part of the scheme ??????
Castleford will never share with the unwashed from over the common .............. simples
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| Quote: deeHell "How do you know it will happen? Not long ago you where taken in hook line and sinker by Dickie Wrights Ben bailey angle. You refused to accept that the value of WR was considerably below the cost of building a new stadium (like I said all along). The whole Opus thing is obviously still in its infancy until the planning permission goes in (if it ever does) all your doing is speculating. It’s all wishful thinking and nothing factual has happened till that PP goes in. The truth is that nobody really has a clue what is going on behind the scenes. The whole Ben baileys fiasco took you all by surprise; I feel a few twists and turns will come with this Opus thing.
Wishful thinking will not get you your new ground.'"
And scrounging will not get you yours ............................  |
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| Quote: deeHell "It's not the same it though Pyeman! I'd rather us be playing right in Wakefield, Durker/Thornes Park but that wasn't to be. Now we have to compromise and move practically outside of town to edge of Stanley. The distance between Wakefield centre and Cas centre to Newmarket is near equal. If we have to share at any the only fair answer would be Newmarket, it would involve both teams moving a distance from their supporter base but that called compromise. Sharing at Glasshoughton would only benefit Cas Tigers, Newmarket would be a fair compromise.'"
Newmarket within the city boundaries a fair compromise .............................. are you mad ???????
What exactly would wakey bring financially to a share option or worse ????
Ground to sell ??? Assetts ??? thats a big fat zero then , unless you count the famous collection buckets, but even they must be wearing out by now |
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| Quote: pyeman "Think you are right about the boundary changes, shame really i think most of the people of cas would jump at the chance to be part of selby council district instead of wakey.'"
I wonder what they think in Selby 
As for Neverdid - I expect your username is based on your contribution to thinking rationally. |
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| Quote: wakeyrule "I wonder what they think in Selby ![]()
Think they would be pretty up for it, there are lot of family and social ties between selby and cas, theres a much better relationship between cas and selby than cas and wakey. They would benefit alot by having a greater population and greater tax income in there district. They only ones who would stand to lose would be wmdc.
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| Quote: neverdid "
I'll try but i think it will be a waste of breath.
Certainly no intention of mischief on my behalf, i think there is always room for debate on such topics and i have tried to be balanced on both ours and this forum.
Scroungers? i dont understand.
Planning permission, we are on with it, i think its been put in, we are just awaiting the outcome and then the work should take about a month i believe.
GH being built before NM....collection buckets etc etc. Who knows, judging by the standard of your post, clearly you don't. FWIW i hope we both end up where we want to be, and sooner rather than later.
Castleford will never share..... you certainly dont speak for the club and all of its supporters (i'm sure they are mostly glad of it), as it doesnt appear to be your strongest suit.
Time will tell, but there is little harm in reasoned discussion on the subject.
Thanks for your contribution, its been emotional.
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| Quote: wakeyrule "I wonder what they think in Selby ![]()
There is a very large following of Cas fans in Selby, it would be great for the area
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| Quote: kinleycat "
Bless you , the unwashed always try to appear aloof when on the back foot and you are a prime example, How i wish the welsh experiment had continued and then you would be in your rightful place.
Bring on chissit instead of this halfwit lightweight 
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| Quote: neverdid "
Articulate isn't the same as aloof, only in the minds of the simple.
If the welsh experiment had worked, you may well have wished it hadn't , and for two reasons.
1) the RFL would have though it will work in Scotland and Ireland too, then another team in France, and that could've been the death knell for other historic clubs, including yours!
2) it would have been finely balanced as to who went, my money's on crusaders going anyway, but theres no guarantee that it wasn't either of us.
Unlike most cas fans who have entered into this debate, you appear to have something of a chip on your shoulder and seem incapable of rational conversation.
I shall leave you to continue in your Ill judged and stunted manner, name calling etc (very brave) and wish you well.
Good day. 
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| Quote: kinleycat "
What did you expect when the original question was so antagonistic even though you tried to claim in your opening sentence that this is not what you intended. The whole debate has been gone through a million times and there is not going to be a winner no matter how times you try and resurect it. We are Cas, you are Wakey, never the twain shall meet.
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| Quote: Big Man "
I know it's hardly scientific but almost half of the people who voted disagree with you, and a hell of a lot more than that over on our forum.
I can think of one main reason not to ground share, merger!!
I can think of numerous reasons why both clubs could as well.
At the end of the day, and for whatever reason, we may end up without a choice, none of us know what's around the corner.
I am just pleasantly surprised that the feckless self appointed "big mouths" who shout (on behalf of their clubs and its support) the loudest and bang the drum, are in a minority at least as far this poll has been concerned.
I always laugh at people who shout, "it'll never happen" and "over my dead body" etc, as they are often the ones whos attitudes end up killing what they claim to love.
I'm not saying I'm 100% in support, but the common sense in me can see under certain situations it COULD be the best solution or at least the BEST of a bad situation, however under other situations, it's a no!!!
It seems that quite a few others would agree, and therefore it has IMO been a worthwhile exercise.
And perhaps it may highlight to others that they have a valid view and just because other shout louder, doesn't mean they don't have a voice.
All IMveryhumbleO of course.
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| Quote: kinleycat "
I still dont see how such an arrangement could possibly benefit cas KC, if it were for just a season cas would be better off staying at WR as to move our entire infrastructure, lose matchday income and have a significant drop in attendances (look how saints have dropped and there going to widnes was much more popular than us going NM would ever be) would be a huge financial burden, the rfl would see that they dont want to weaken clubs for the sake of one year of box ticking. The only people to benefit would be however ends up with the rent money and who will that be and what would they do with it are unanswered questions. If it were for longer than a year then it will either end up as merger or one club going bust.
Us using newmarket makes as much sense as you sharing GH ie not much
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