No, not just the one, quite a few in his career, let's just brush his career at Wigan under the carpet eh? If he is that fantastic, why are Warrington replacing him?

Quite a few in his career? Privvy to his Leeds appearances too were you? No, thought not.

Simple fact is Mathers would be a strong addition to anyone's squad, least of all a decidedly poor Cas team. It's really that simple.

Owen is a far better fullback, it really is that simple.

...is the wrong answer.

Only if you dont know much about rugby league. Mathers hasnt been any good since leeds, his best form has been at wire where he hasnt been terrible like he was at wigan.

"How to contradict yourself 3 times in 2 sentences." Signed copies available from Pyeman

Yout wit is only matched by your ignorance, your mother must be so proud.

You could of course take the lowest common denominator and use the Mother insults to mask over your inability to sustain any kind of engaging debate.

Fool.

Maybe when you show any evidence of being able to get involved in a debate rather than stating your opinion and insulting those who dont agree with it?

Your concept of irony is quite outstanding.

Still not interested in any sort of rugby debate i see?

Anyway its a nice day outside why dont you enjoy it before the school holidays are over?

And that kind of pseudo comedic response is precisely the reason that your musings on this topic remain both incorrect and spurious at best.

I should leave the Billy Pearce material for those who can carry it off sunshine.

Very droll, still not doing anything to convince anyone on here your anything other than an idiot though.

Because you haven't the intellect to engage in debate or sustain your point as to why you think an 18 year old with a broken leg and no track record is better than a Grand Final winning, England international, (who scored in the World Club Challenge having had a top class game against Canterbury Bulldogs) former NRL player, who was deemed good enough to replace a still excellent Gary Connolly in '04 with admirers including Tony Smith, Brian Noble and seemingly your current coach for his recent form and ability.

But let's not let facts get in the way of your spurious offerings. Feel free to continue with your working men's club comedy and 1970's insults.

Why the petty arguments.

Mathers is not the player he was at Leeds, certainly not consistently as he was at Leeds. But he is a damn site better player than most you already have.

Owen is indeed a class fullback, but you have no guarantees that he will be the same player when he returns. Indeed the reason Mathers is not the same player he was at Leeds is that he's had two knee reconstructions since then, and only this season is now starting to recover fully from it.

Mathers is far better than the likes of McGoldrick, Evans, Wainwright, Dixon. And how many players have you played at scrumhalf this year? I bet Mathers would be better than all of them in that role.