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He's our 5th choice prop and only just 21.

I think he's played a reasonable amount of games this season, i would expect him to push and play more next season.

There's no proof that he's had a fall out with Matterson.

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Quote: Hoffmiester "He's our 5th choice prop and only just 21.

I think he's played a reasonable amount of games this season, i would expect him to push and play more next season.

There's no proof that he's had a fall out with Matterson.'"

Maybe not but not being selected when playing better than others who are selected(according to your own fans) does raise questions!! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: rhinoms "Maybe not but not being selected when playing better than others who are selected(according to your own fans) does raise questions!!
He has played pretty well I'll give him that.

But anyone who believes, without any proof that he's fallen out with Matterson, is some kind of conspiracy theorist with way too much time on there hands.

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Quote: Hoffmiester "Only to people who have nothing better to do then make up rumours, or are so stupid they believe any rumours they read on a forum site'"

Well going by what most of your fans are saying and seeing as he isn't in the team nor signed a new deal i wouldn't put it down to any of the above icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Hoffmiester "He has played pretty well I'll give him that.

But anyone who believes, without any proof that he's fallen out with Matterson, is some kind of conspiracy theorist with way too much time on there hands.'"

That was a quick post change!! icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: rhinoms "Well going by what most of your fans are saying and seeing as he isn't in the team nor signed a new deal i wouldn't put it down to any of the above
ah you quoted me before I edited it, that's not fair.

But just cos he's not playing regularly or re-signed yet doesn't mean theres been a falling out between the coach and him.

Most of the fans or just the select few that come on the message boards.

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Quote: rhinoms "That was a quick post change!!
Yep changed it straight away, though i could do it before anyone would read it or quote it, though it was a bit harsh, yours was even faster!

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Quote: Hoffmiester "ah you quoted me before I edited it, that's not fair.

But just cos he's not playing regularly or re-signed yet doesn't mean theres been a falling out between the coach and him.'"

It raises questions though mate when he's reportedly being better than those who have been selected whether yer a conspiracy theorist or not.
Whilst i accept they aren't always reliable there has been a hell of a lot of RL paper talk about this kid attracting serious interest from other teams.

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Quote: rhinoms "It raises questions though mate when he's reportedly being better those who have been selected whether yer a conspiracy theorist or not.
Whilst i accept they aren't always reliable there has been a hell of a lot of RL paper talk about this kid attracting serious interest from other teams.'"


It's subjective whether he's been better than players being selected. Most people who say that point to the fact that they he's a better player than clayton, who has been pretty steady this season, but seam to forget he plays a different possistion. For me our props have done nothing which warrants them dropping, and we've not had many injuries up front which is a shame for Boyle.

Yes put the papers also said that Evans had deffo signed for Wakey this season. Ans Westerman was strongly liked with several clubs last year, inc leeds.

I'm not saying Boyle wont leave, in fact i have a feeling he might.

It's really Matterson i'm trying to stand up for. people are too eager to slate matterson for what they perceive has his so called lack of man managment skills, but they have little if any proof. I think he should be congratulated for the progress the team have made this year.

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and if you dont agree, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this, had i'm bored of typing! Can't be bothered with arguments.
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Quote: Hoffmiester "It's subjective whether he's been better than players being selected. Most people who say that point to the fact that they he's a better player than clayton, who has been pretty steady this season, but seam to forget he plays a different possistion. For me our props have done nothing which warrants them dropping, and we've not had many injuries up front which is a shame for Boyle.

Yes put the papers also said that Evans had deffo signed for Wakey this season. Ans Westerman was strongly liked with several clubs last year, inc leeds.

I'm not saying Boyle wont leave, in fact i have a feeling he might.

It's really Matterson i'm trying to stand up for. people are too eager to slate matterson for what they perceive has his so called lack of man managment skills, but they have little if any proof. I think he should be congratulated for the progress the team have made this year.'"

Can't argue with that i'm sure it'll all be out in the open soon.

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I agree with most of what you're saying

However, we have seen it over the past few years where players have done little wrong on the pitch and not had chance to prove they can do more. Boyle, Keith Mason and Damien Blanch to name three of the top of my head!

The point is, it [iseems[/i as though if your face doesn't fit then you don't play

I credit what Matterson has done in the years he has been here, but this is one little gripe that i have with him. Imho, and i know they play different positions, Clayton does nothing for me at all, i just cannot understand how he gets in the team week in and week out

I would like to see the Props rotated a bit more, put the likes of Boyle in with Sarge/Feather or even rotate them with the youngsters like Huby etc

Tbh, Matterson has always raved on about home grown youngsters "they are the future", he isn't taking his own advice really is he?

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Quote: casman2 "I credit what Matterson has done in the years he has been here, but this is one little gripe that i have with him. Imho, and i know they play different positions, Clayton does nothing for me at all, i just cannot understand how he gets in the team week in and week out'"


It's mainly due to injuries and a small squad size. If we had a fully fit squad I don't think he'd make the starting 17. But because Sherwin has been injured players have be shifted around so we have a 2nd rower in Widder playing centre. That leaves a space which Clayton takes up.

You can't have a team of 25 world beaters and for the money he's on I don't see us finding a better squad player.

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Quote: Gazemous "It's also common knowledge that you talk a load of rubbish Michael...'"
that makes 2 of us icon_lol.gif and next time you see ryan, just ask him what he thinks. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Bearded "It's mainly due to injuries and a small squad size. If we had a fully fit squad I don't think he'd make the starting 17. But because Sherwin has been injured players have be shifted around so we have a 2nd rower in Widder playing centre. That leaves a space which Clayton takes up.

You can't have a team of 25 world beaters and for the money he's on I don't see us finding a better squad player.'"


Surely size wise, we would be better off playing Clayton in the centres

Then again he doesn't have the pace of Widders icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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