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| Quote: HouriganTiger "i think you need to take the night in it's context. to me the night symbolised the following;
- this is the squad for the season
- the season if full of hope and big expectation
- in the presence of the management, BOD and sponsors the squad are presented their shirts and it is a statement of intent by the club that we mean business this season.
- to the fans and the sponsors, this is the squad that will deliver success
- we have completed a grueling pre season and we are no ready for the season
so for those reasons i think it is fair to say players drinking beers at the bar can be seen as a little un professional. personally i dont care but i can easily see to some that it can be seen as pentulent!
no one is saying the players are out of order i think it was probably a little niaivaty on their part and it would not have hurt to keep off the drink given the night was about signaling it's intent for the upcoming season. impressions are everything in life and unfortunately you only get one chance at a first impression!!'"
Well said!
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Did any of the sponsors or directors have a drink?
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| You just cant win.
Just 12 months ago fans were up in arms about our drinkers at the club.
We all know who they are or were.
Now fans are sticking up for the drinkers.
Crazy old world. It's either one or the other.
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| Quote: poppys mum "You just cant win.
Just 12 months ago fans were up in arms about our drinkers at the club.
We all know who they are or were.
Now fans are sticking up for the drinkers.
Crazy old world. It's either one or the other.'"
No, it's not, not even close.
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| Quote: poppys mum "You just cant win.
Just 12 months ago fans were up in arms about our drinkers at the club.
We all know who they are or were.
Now fans are sticking up for the drinkers.
Crazy old world. It's either one or the other.'"
There's a HUGE difference between having a couple of drinks on an occasion like Tuesday and turning up for training/a match after a heavy session the night before.
If the two guys in question were worse for wear on the evening, then yes it looks bad. BUT, if they were simply having a social drink, there's no problem as far as I see it. And I still fail to see the difference between having a couple at the King's Croft and having a couple at home. They're still drinking and the "outcome" will still be the same - except that one is in a public place and one isn't. I really do fail to see why so much is being made of this.
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| Quote: Georgie Best on a Bloomer "There's a HUGE difference between having a couple of drinks on an occasion like Tuesday and turning up for training/a match after a heavy session the night before.
If the two guys in question were worse for wear on the evening, then yes it looks bad. BUT, if they were simply having a social drink, there's no problem as far as I see it. And I still fail to see the difference between having a couple at the King's Croft and having a couple at home. They're still drinking and the "outcome" will still be the same - except that one is in a public place and one isn't. I really do fail to see why so much is being made of this.'"
Mmmm, the outcome for the individual is the same - getting drunk - but the outcome as far as how the club is perceived by potential sponsors and other outsiders is different. I think the point the OP was making was not to judge the actions but to simply point out that the actions presented a 'risk' to the club, a risk that could've and (in my opinion) should've been avoided.
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| So how many drinks are we talking they had? Question to the people who were there and saw this?
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39793_1491679334.jpg "Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
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| Quote: cas all the way "So how many drinks are we talking they had? Question to the people who were there and saw this?'"
Who was counting? - ok 1 or 2 or more players had a couple of pints of lager ( I had 3 or 4 ) Unless the managment had said that none of the players were to drink then I don't see a problem.
It was watching them falling about and having to be carried out at the end of the night I thought was not right.
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| Quote: Brinkz "Mmmm, the outcome for the individual is the same - getting drunk - but the outcome as far as how the club is perceived by potential sponsors and other outsiders is different. I think the point the OP was making was not to judge the actions but to simply point out that the actions presented a 'risk' to the club, a risk that could've and (in my opinion) should've been avoided.'"
From what's been said on here, a couple of the squad had a couple of lagers. There's been no reports of drunkenness, bad behaviour or anything like that. So my point is and has always been, what's the difference between not getting drunk on beer and not getting drunk on fruit juice?
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| Quote: bigalf "Who was counting? - ok 1 or 2 or more players had a couple of pints of lager ( I had 3 or 4 ) Unless the managment had said that none of the players were to drink then I don't see a problem.
It was watching them falling about and having to be carried out at the end of the night I thought was not right.
That's my point. They had 1 or 2 pints. Some cas fans need to lay off them abit.
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| Be honest with yourself when you answer these and don't answer a question with a question!!!
1) If 22 players chose to drink soft drinks at a function, why did two (predictable) players choose to have a beer? (The key to the question is in the word 'predictable'!)
a) Arrogance.
b) Naivety.
c) Lack of managment instruction.
d) The predictable 2 got it right, and the other 22 should have had a beer as well.
2) If a current or potential sponsor with some/little/no involvement in professional sport, would they expect to see a Professional sportsman with.
a) a soft drink in their hand?
or
b) Stood at the bar drinking pints (Regardess of qauntity)?
3) If a profesional sportsman in their preparatory stages for a season ahead, would it be acceptable for them to be seen by a potential sponsor eating a kebab? or would it be better for them to be seen eating heathy food?
4) Do you think that there is a difference in what a professional sportsman is seen to be eating compared to drinking?
a) Yes.
B) No.
4) If I heard persons in the room talking about those drinking and referreing to it as 'their normal pre-season training regime', do you think sponsors would have also heard this?
a) No
b) Yes
5) Lastly we often get a lot of 'big personalities' expressing strong and often blinkered opinions on some of these posts. In which case, if you are half as committed to the club as you may sometimes profess to be with your infinite knowledge on this forum, why weren't you at the function supporting you club during this important phase of the club shaping it's future?
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: the_grobs "Be honest with yourself when you answer these and don't answer a question with a question!!!
1) If 22 players chose to drink soft drinks at a function, why did two (predictable) players choose to have a beer? (The key to the question is in the word 'predictable'!)
a) Arrogance.
b) Naivety.
c) Lack of managment instruction.
d) The predictable 2 got it right, and the other 22 should have had a beer as well.
2) If a current or potential sponsor with some/little/no involvement in professional sport, would they expect to see a Professional sportsman with.
a) a soft drink in their hand?
or
b) Stood at the bar drinking pints (Regardess of qauntity)?
3) If a profesional sportsman in their preparatory stages for a season ahead, would it be acceptable for them to be seen by a potential sponsor eating a kebab? or would it be better for them to be seen eating heathy food?
4) Do you think that there is a difference in what a professional sportsman is seen to be eating compared to drinking?
a) Yes.
B) No.
4) If I heard persons in the room talking about those drinking and referreing to it as 'their normal pre-season training regime', do you think sponsors would have also heard this?
a) No
b) Yes
5) Lastly we often get a lot of 'big personalities' expressing strong and often blinkered opinions on some of these posts. In which case, if you are half as committed to the club as you may sometimes profess to be with your infinite knowledge on this forum, why weren't you at the function supporting you club during this important phase of the club shaping it's future?'"
1-d (but only a couple)
2-Thats a leading question i wouldnt be expecting to see them drink any particular drink, only what they choose to drink.
3-It would be better to be seen eating healthy food, but at the end of the day its off season so they should have a right to choose there own food as long as they are putting the hard graft in when training (and by all accounts they are)
4-I dont particularly care.
5- I was working a 14 hour shift.
As i said earlier did and of the board memebers or sponsors have a drink?
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| Each to their own Pyeman.
In your book if it is off season and the lad has put in the graft, he could stand there in front of potential new sponsors with a pint in one hand a kebab in the other, surrounded by people wrongly suggesting that they are on the p@ss again and it wouldn't be off putting to an investor.
Have you thought about nominating yourself for the pride of Britain award, you're a real role model, you really know about setting an example to others....or is that just an image which others shouldn't read into!! Proper clueless!!
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: the_grobs "Each to their own Pyeman.
In your book if it is off season and the lad has put in the graft, he could stand there in front of potential new sponsors with a pint in one hand a kebab in the other, surrounded by people wrongly suggesting that they are on the p@ss again and it wouldn't be off putting to an investor.
Have you thought about nominating yourself for the pride of Britain award, you're a real role model, you really know about setting an example to others....or is that just an image which others shouldn't read into!! Proper clueless!!'"
Theres no need to be like that grobs, i dont see the point in bringing it to a personal level just because i disagree with you. I just happen to believe that the players should be allowed a couple of pints, when its off season, when they have been putting the hard graft in. If you dont agree thats fine, we are all entitled to our opinion.
If they had been getting hammered i would be annoyed also but a couple of pints, i really dont see a problem.
Did the club directors and the sponsors have a drink?
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| Quote: the_grobs "Be honest with yourself when you answer these and don't answer a question with a question!!!
1) If 22 players chose to drink soft drinks at a function, why did two (predictable) players choose to have a beer? (The key to the question is in the word 'predictable'!)
a) Arrogance.
b) Naivety.
c) Lack of managment instruction.
d) The predictable 2 got it right, and the other 22 should have had a beer as well.
e) Because that's what they wanted to drink and did so responsibly
2) If a current or potential sponsor with some/little/no involvement in professional sport, would they expect to see a Professional sportsman with.
a) a soft drink in their hand?
or
b) Stood at the bar drinking pints (Regardess of qauntity)?
c) No expectations, really. We all know that some professional sportsmen drink and some don't
3) If a profesional sportsman in their preparatory stages for a season ahead, would it be acceptable for them to be seen by a potential sponsor eating a kebab? or would it be better for them to be seen eating heathy food?
As a potential sponsor, if I saw team members eating unhealthily, going on binges and behaving unprofessionally off the pitch, I still might sponsor the team if they performed well in the match. Sponsorship is ultimately about publicity...
4) Do you think that there is a difference in what a professional sportsman is seen to be eating compared to drinking?
a) Yes.
B) No.
4) If I heard persons in the room talking about those drinking and referreing to it as 'their normal pre-season training regime', do you think sponsors would have also heard this?
a) No
b) Yes. However, as a potential sponsor, I might have taken this as the joke it clearly is.
5) Lastly we often get a lot of 'big personalities' expressing strong and often blinkered opinions on some of these posts. In which case, if you are half as committed to the club as you may sometimes profess to be with your infinite knowledge on this forum, why weren't you at the function supporting you club during this important phase of the club shaping it's future?
Because I don't live anywhere near the area and I have a job to get up for
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