I am working, But i wish i wasnt

I will fully back this pretest, Too long now we have gone on putting in passionless performances, We have a spinenless coach who shows no enthusiasm for the club and i think he has completely run out of ideas, And i am very sure he has lost the dressing room

I think this will also be aimed at RW and the board, Not just TM.

But i know if we got Vowlesy as coach things would be different, For a fact


One problem we do have though is we are paying stupid wages to certain players, And all the other guys know this... Would you want to be at work, Getting paid 1/5th of someone else, And working harder than them ? I doubt it, This is a major problem too

Who got us back up the year after? who got us into the play-offs 2 year later? It may be time for him to go but what Im trying to say is theres no need to let him leave with the cas fans on his back.

Most people may think he has been rubbish but like I said, last years season was the best we have had since 2002.

=#8040FFYes I was saying it this time last year, can you really, honestly say you were happy with the performances last year (not the top 8 finish) such as Leeds away, or both games against St Helens etc? He got us back into Super League? WOW WEE! so did Dave Woods, it's not exactly a hard league to get out of when you're the ONLY full time team is it?

The board might not give him no money, but Wakey don't give Kear any money, and look what he's done with that team, he buys to accommodate the budget, Matterson does not, he can't coach defence, the attack is becoming predictable, the team panic ALL THE TIME, he cannot control them off the field. Why should he be clapped off? lets look at what he's done...a NEGATIVE points difference across a 4 year span even though they finished the year in NL1 with +400! points difference, he's signed crap like McGoldrick & Sherwin, he falls out with at least one player every year, do you think a good SUPER LEAGUE level head coach should be doing all this? look at all the teams above Cas that aren't spending the full cap, what do they all have? A GOOD COACH.

Oh and yes, worst coach in recent memory, Dave Woods was FAR better, then there's Steadman & Mercer, who were a pair together. Vowlesy would drop what he's doing right now if RW gave him the phone call and he would be on the next plane and would control this bunch of pi$$ heads we call a professional team he will instil some pride into them, do you think he would settle for the fat, unfit lazy crap Matterson lets them get away with? do you think he wouldn't bother coaching defence? do you think he will use the same old tired excuses week after week after week?

Vowlsey would be a better coach for a fact??? how you know that Kemp? just like you though Danny Brough and someone else were gonna fail a drug test but you were wrong. If TM goes we need a coach with experience not another beginner!!!

=#8000FFWhat you mean like Michael Maguire with his VAST experience of top level coaching?

a good well trained beginner coach that knows what they're doing will do a good job, a well trained beginner coach who has a passion for the side he's coaching will do a great job, imagine a Cas team that played for the badge and could defend, that's a top 6 team even with the current squad.

I do think it maybe time for TM to go but not with everone on his back. He did what was hoped of him last year. I just think anyone who wants to boo him away should think again.

I wont be booing him and I hope others will not either. Matterson going will not change the clubs situation. No money, no ground. At this rate no superleague in 2 years.

Please think long and hard before going ahead with your protest, remember last year with a group gathering behind the main stand a great big fine followed from the RFL some of this fine has been suspended. I know that was for a different reason but lets face it any media that are at the game tomorrow will make any story up they won't let the truth get in the way. Then we will face another hearing at the RFL.

We don't need bad publicity how will this look to the RFL when considering franchise applications??????

I am as unhappy as anyone else but this is a bad idea, the area behind the stand has limited space and the RFL will say the club are not ensuring the safety of others......WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER FINE - LET ALONE HAVING TO PAY THE SUSPENDED PART OF THE LAST ONE.

This demonstration sounds HUGE!!!!

about the same as the capacity of your seating area at belle vue

TOTALLY DISGRACEFUL IDEA.

A SUPPORTER SUPPORTS THE TEAM.

Matterson took us from the bottom of the barrell in NL to the Super League play offs. Its not gone great this year but we are still 10th in the comp, only ONE POINT behind triple champions Leeds Rhinos, and indeed two points from a play off place. Crowds are ok and people are working hard on the stadium project.

Its far from all bad. Im unhappy at the team at the moment but that doesnt mean Im going to chain myself to the shop and set fire to my Cas boxer shorts!!!!!

Get a grip, support the team and the club.

PS - Good point about the suspended fine too. Annoy the RFL at your peril for 2011. We need to emit positivity, nothing else.

STUPID IDEA

=#8000FFOoh look at mr happy clappy here

so because the team are 1 point behind a team that had THIRTEEN injuries is a good thing? the fact the defence is as woeful as ever is a good thing? the fact the attack is clueless is a good thing? as for "bottom of the barrel in NL1" don't talk daft, the best team in the league by a country mile, a trained monkey could have coached the team to promotion, last year he had a squad good enough to finish higher then what the team did, he led the team to some embarrassing defeats as well, all is not well and the fact he didn't get fired at the end of his first season is totally baffling.

Just be careful. The RFL won't look on it kindly if it all kicks off again.

I'm all for fan power and believe if you want change you need to make yourselves heard, and fwiw i think your getting an awful deal from JF and RW, I've said for years you are being mislead, but please make your point in a way that protects the club and shows your unity.

Emphasize to the RFL the good things in your club; your support, your loyalty and your unity, even when dealt with difficulty and trying circumstances.
Don't give them ground to place the blame on you as fans, the club or anyone but those you deem responsible i.e JF and WR.

Good luck.

I have to say that as an outsider looking in, i think that some of you are getting a rather exagerated opinion of were you expect to be in the league.

Realistically your a recently promoted club, so should judge your results against the likes of Salford.

It takes time to build things, and Cas are a solid if unspectaclar outfit at this stage.
Matterson may be no world beater, but who else are you going to get?

As fans you need to think more long term. There are some decent young kids at Cas, but its going to take some time for enough quality to come through.

It doesn't bare thinking about really.

Why have a go at Jack Fulton. A man who has ploughed hundreds of thousands of pounds into your club over the years. Without his money it would have been impossible to keep the squad of players you did in NL1. He has kept your club alive. Gone are the days when 4 thousand home fans can support a top flight club. As Jack Fulton gets on in age and I understand his health is not so good who can blame him for wanting his money back. The plan was that he would be repaid when the Jungle was sold, sadly with the credit crunch etc it has not been possible to find a buyer at the right place plus the other consideration of the chemical licence still remaining on the Hickson land means that at this time a housebuilder will not buy the jungle. So Jack Fulton is still on board and still will require his money but to the mans credit he is still doing his best for the club. Seems a low blow to have ago at him and spoil his pre match lunch.

Agree totaly.

If you think that bloody wayne bennet could get a team with no depth to 6th place your deluded, the fact of the matter is we spend less than everyone bar quins and salford who are the bottom and below us while wire and wigan spend several hundred thousand pounds more than us and are at the top. If we get a rich backer we can become a force if we dont we will spend the rest of our time in sl moaning about our coach or coaches because they cant do a better job than everyone else with less resources.

Yeah but lets not let fact or reason stand in our way, 'Materson out'!

Absolutley ridiculous realy. Some of our fans need a wake up call, its not a new coach we need its 2-3000 more supporters or rich backer.

Fecking dreamland half of our lot live in.

I can't say I'm over the moon at the way Cas have performed so far this season (compared to last), and maybe there's a deebate to be had about who ought be coaching the side right now. Personally I think the key problem is a chronic lack of depth, though there are certainly things the coach needs to put his hands up for too.

But I honestly can't see the point of organised protests. If you're not happy spending money to watch what's served then, er, don't spend it! I think it's safe to say the club will pay significantly more attention to a drop in income than they would to a few placards and banners. Just write to them, air your grievances and then explain exactly how much you're not going to spend on gates, shirts, matchday beers, programmes, etc...

Plus, as has been said already, protests just put out an air of negativity and discontent about Cas', playing right into the hands of those who want to knock us or (more seriously) get rid of us at the next franchise application stage.

So how does the club intend to get an extra 2-3000 supporters through the gates, oh thats it by resigning Ryan Clayton starting with a squad of is it 24 and that built up with 4-5 kids who matterson doesnt really want to use hence bringing in fringe players from over teams you couldnt make it up,,,,and to put the icing on the cake our own ceo saying we basically are not bothering this year because last year we overachieved i.e were lucky. only a good side competative and if not winning all the time but playing well will do what you think we need, what we have is a drab team giving dire performances..

Hello, I have been reading this forum for a few years now mainly to catch up on the latest gossip and rumours at the club and this is the first time I have felt moved to post a reply on any subject. This is a very sore subject for me since I was stood behind Steadman when two dozen fans decided to take action and basicly picket the dressing room door to demand a change at the club and steady had the guts to come out and address them and let them know that he would be doing all he could to fix things at the club for which he was applauded by many of the protesters. The next day he was sacked. Now Steady's playing days were a few years before my time as a supporter but everything that I have heard and read tells me how much of a how much of a legend he was and how much the fans loved him and yet a few years into his senior coaching career he was gone. The devastation on the mans face in subsequent interviews ( despite our humiliation under his leadership) damn near broke my heart not just because of how it had ended for him but for what had come before and all the love and admiration that he had from the fans and board was gone after an awful start to the season.This is not the same situation. Terry Matterson came to our club at extremely short notice with a squad of players that were not his own and after a shaky start got us playing as a team and with the signing of Danny Brough we took the fight to the last day, did not finnish bottom and and finnished with a record amount of points for a relegated team. You would have to be he worlds biggest cynic to take the view that Terry and the club were not at least a little unlucky that year.
On to NL1 and one of the best examples of a season long stratagy of peaking towards the back end of the year I have seen from any team. We were close to perfect in our approach and with the emergence of Westerman,Owen and the like we had high hopes for our imediate future. Nobody likes "gap years" in sport and the cas fans did well to stick by the club through mostly bad times.
A year later we go from bottom to seventh and could have easily have gone alot higher had we had similar home form to our away form who knows? This year an uninspiring start has been compounded by odd comments from RW telling us not to expect to much and PAINFUL silence and disturbing reports about "phased development" of our dream stadia have got the fans nervous and frustrated. I am extremly disapointed at our current form and communication from the bod but the idea of a protest right after what could potentially be a "difficult" day for us could almost certainly make things worse (yes things could be a lot worse, I know because I have seen worse) We took a gamble on a small squad and it has come back to bite us with injury after injury to some of our most effective players and all the while the likes of Hull and Warrington have made supreme signings and strides this year. Does this mean we throw our hands up and give in? NO but we do have to temper our expectations just a little whilst screaming for better ON THE TERRACES. For what its worth I think the second biggest problem this year behind our squad size is the nerves of the team. they looked nervous at the Childprats place and we never saw them threaten the Wakefield line in the second half. We need confidence and more leadership on the park but if the fans want the big win then we have to play our part and build them up and hold off the protest for a while PLEASE and give the injured players a chance to make a comeback and make a difference.
Right now thats off my chest I am on my way out the door to cheer my team on and hopefully a good game is in store but I just hope it is not soured by any more "incidents" that the RFL can use against us. Dont bottle it Cas fans!! Good luck.

=#FFFF00UP THE TIGERS!!


P.S. Sorry to prattle on.

get wright out the prize one pr...

That's a great post. It's threads like this one that make me embarrassed to be a Cas fan at times.

And for those saying we were the only full time team in our last NL1 stint... you're wrong. Widnes were also full time.