I'd have O'Loughlin, Westerman and even Ben Harrison before Sinfield @ 13
Great Super league player that Sinfield is i just don't rate him at International level, time for a change

In the halves add in Widdop, Lomax, Gaskell etc and we have some great youngsters to choose from

Nor a lot of criticism for Tony Smith.

But because it's McNamara, he's 'incompetent', 'useless', etc etc.

McNamara is incompetent, useless, etc! He has done nothing as a manager at any level, he couldn't run a bath. He is not a man that installs passion amongst fans.

I have no gripes with Rangi playing for England though, look at other sports and England have had people from other countries playing for them for years. I would rather pay to watch Rangi at half back than the likes of Rob Burrow

McNamara may not be a good coach, but given that his job might possibly require him to make England as competitive as possible, he's doing more than I would have expected. He's added 3 players in Widdopp, Reed and Heighington who add hugely to our depth (Reed was selected in the NRL team of the year in one mag here), and now a class player in Chase.

The message to the poor 'English' kids not getting picked is simple - get better. Thank goodness we have a coach willing to tell them that - albeit by not selecting them. I have no time at all for suggesting we pick a 'pure' side that gets mullered - seen it before thanks. I suspect the Exiles game was enough to convince McNamara that our next generation is simply not good enough yet.

What England need is more of a win at all costs mentality. I've seen enough heroic failures (and even more dreadful efforts) to last me a lifetime. I want to see us regularly compete. Most of all I want to see England something in my lifetime.

I think that the real issue is that although Rangi is not English he qualifies to play for England. Some contradiction here surely?

Chile

Hallelujah. Someone who agrees with me. Depth = competition = striving to win a place = better players.