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| What in your opinions needs to happen to stop the rot?. Losing 3 out of the last 4 only 1 bonus point and down to 4th.
Good things off the pitch with investment and structure however it's on the pitch we are dire, boring and clueless. This isn't knee jerk reactions. We have been boring all year.
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| A Backs coach, some decent centres & half-backs + hooker required.
I reckon Harrison will be given 1 more year.
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| Quote: Faxhali "What in your opinions needs to happen to stop the rot?. Losing 3 out of the last 4 only 1 bonus point and down to 4th.
Good things off the pitch with investment and structure however it's on the pitch we are dire, boring and clueless. This isn't knee jerk reactions. We have been boring all year.'"
We had a slow start and it was said - "wait till the dry grounds come". In May we were running on Asphalt. Now we're running through treacle. I think we are resigned to the fact that we're just not good enough - season long - to finish in the top four. Things could dramatically turn around during play offs but there's no sign of that happening.
One thing that frustrates me - player contract negotiations DURING the season. It's a terrible affliction and yes, it affects every team but if you're a player that hasn't been contacted for a chat about 2014 when others are waving around a four year contract then you're going to be deflated. It has to affect performances on the field. I don't know what the answer is.
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| Quote: Faxhali "What in your opinions needs to happen to stop the rot?. Losing 3 out of the last 4 only 1 bonus point and down to 4th.
Good things off the pitch with investment and structure however it's on the pitch we are dire, boring and clueless. This isn't knee jerk reactions. We have been boring all year.'"
CHARLIE knew I said on Wednesday "We are Behind you ", now its "We are in front of you ",someone of this Forum said before the Leigh game Fax were on Fire , well they are now burnt out Littlerich , Swifty ,Faxhali ,Halifaxjohn , and Bentleyman ,Charlie Knew .
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| Quote: littlerich "We had a slow start and it was said - "wait till the dry grounds come". In May we were running on Asphalt. Now we're running through treacle. I think we are resigned to the fact that we're just not good enough - season long - to finish in the top four. Things could dramatically turn around during play offs but there's no sign of that happening.
One thing that frustrates me - player contract negotiations DURING the season. It's a terrible affliction and yes, it affects every team but if you're a player that hasn't been contacted for a chat about 2014 when others are waving around a four year contract then you're going to be deflated. It has to affect performances on the field. I don't know what the answer is.'"
Rich , Charlie thinks your Avatar has got a Headache .
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| Quote: jeffvickers "A Backs coach, some decent centres & half-backs + hooker required.
I reckon Harrison will be given 1 more year.'"
He has done 2 years of his 3 year contract (I believe)
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| We need to change our tactics plus the halfbacks? Will be there till the end of the season but it's all very frustrating. We have bags of effort but need more guile.
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| Quote: jeffvickers "A Backs coach, some decent centres & half-backs + hooker required.
I reckon Harrison will be given 1 more year.'"
Penky ?Littlerich will have the Rosary Beads outs ,and painting the back of the Bog Door again .
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| Part of the answer LR is play your best team consistently, stop chopping and changing all the time, playing players out of position. Patto at FB?? We signed Heaton as a FB from Oldham, we've converted him to centre. Surely it makes sense to play a FB in such a specialist position??
I'm sure Harrison will be given another year but tactically I just don't think he's up to it. When his back was up against the wall at Salford their fans constantly moaned about boring rugby, route 1 etc (sound familiar??). His player recruitment is questionable, I grimaced as soon as he announced Thackeray and Handforth as his "dream team" as I'd personally never rated Thacks and Handforth had always kicked around mid table Championship sides at best. Admittedly he always stood out....
I think KH as a big job to turn this around and the problem the club faces is that whilst he doesn't fans will turn off. In 34 years of watching Fax I've never been so non plussed about watching them and in fact drag myself to home games currently. I used to attend away games as religiously as home games but now go to the odd game. Some if it is down to cost, some down to my family and kids but mostly the fact that I don't enjoy watching them currently. How can we attract new fans when our main event is poor and the match day experience is no better currently with little pre match entertainment. I know this is down to cost but we should do more in my opinion.
The club needs to start telling fans about the exciting stuff for next year, who we've signed (other clubs do it) to whet the appetite and make a big song and dance about our push for SL. Maybe offer a voucher that gives you a % off a season ticket for new or lapsed ST holders but they only get it by getting a card stamped at the turnstile at the remaining home games?? Announce the new ST price at the last home game, signings etc and get people to sign up now. This gives fans longer to pay etc...
I don't know but my major worry is fans getting turned off and not coming as I know how I feel right now. If Harrison doesn't do something he could cost us a few speccies.
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| Quote: hippman "We need to change our tactics plus the halfbacks? Will be there till the end of the season but it's all very frustrating. We have bags of effort but need more guile.'"
We don't seem to have much effort near our line in the dieing minutes of these games to get or stop a bonus point being awarded.
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| League table never lies I'm afraid. Leigh game was a bruiser and costly for a Fax team bereft of quality and creative half backs and centres! Sorry but we are in true position now with our current squad. Confidence is a key factor and losing 3 out of the last 4 at the business end of the season is recipe for' let's get this season over with asap and start again next year etc.' Big year for Karl next year and the club.If we don't perform when it really matters then karl is really under pressure.
We are just on a roller coaster ride this season now as to where we finish and what happens in play off.
Fax have my support win lose or draw but am not sure about others!
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| Quote: chris_smith "Part of the answer LR is play your best team consistently, stop chopping and changing all the time, playing players out of position. Patto at FB?? We signed Heaton as a FB from Oldham, we've converted him to centre. Surely it makes sense to play a FB in such a specialist position??
I'm sure Harrison will be given another year but tactically I just don't think he's up to it. When his back was up against the wall at Salford their fans constantly moaned about boring rugby, route 1 etc (sound familiar??). His player recruitment is questionable, I grimaced as soon as he announced Thackeray and Handforth as his "dream team" as I'd personally never rated Thacks and Handforth had always kicked around mid table Championship sides at best. Admittedly he always stood out....
I think KH as a big job to turn this around and the problem the club faces is that whilst he doesn't fans will turn off. In 34 years of watching Fax I've never been so non plussed about watching them and in fact drag myself to home games currently. I used to attend away games as religiously as home games but now go to the odd game. Some if it is down to cost, some down to my family and kids but mostly the fact that I don't enjoy watching them currently. How can we attract new fans when our main event is poor and the match day experience is no better currently with little pre match entertainment. I know this is down to cost but we should do more in my opinion.
The club needs to start telling fans about the exciting stuff for next year, who we've signed (other clubs do it) to whet the appetite and make a big song and dance about our push for SL. Maybe offer a voucher that gives you a % off a season ticket for new or lapsed ST holders but they only get it by getting a card stamped at the turnstile at the remaining home games?? Announce the new ST price at the last home game, signings etc and get people to sign up now. This gives fans longer to pay etc...
I don't know but my major worry is fans getting turned off and not coming as I know how I feel right now. If Harrison doesn't do something he could cost us a few speccies.'"
I have to say I found myself agreeing with your post. Go back a few years and I never missed a game home or away, whatever day it was on. I didn't go to Leigh and there was no way I was going to drag myself up to Cumbria today and I'm certainly glad I didn't go to either game. But I have found myself not missing the day out. I remain committed to the home games, and thankfully our remaining away game is just a few miles away. I guess I have mentally wrote off this season and I am looking for some big changes for next season.
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| Quote: spanishbob "I have to say I found myself agreeing with your post. Go back a few years and I never missed a game home or away, whatever day it was on. I didn't go to Leigh and there was no way I was going to drag myself up to Cumbria today and I'm certainly glad I didn't go to either game. But I have found myself not missing the day out. I remain committed to the home games, and thankfully our remaining away game is just a few miles away. I guess I have mentally wrote off this season and I am looking for some big changes for next season.'"
"OLE , OLE , OLE ", Spanishbob .
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| Quote: chris_smith "Part of the answer LR is play your best team consistently, stop chopping and changing all the time, '"
That is what I find frustrating. dropping Rob & Tyrer, bringing them back the next week, dropping them again - too much chopping and changing. The side never looks settled. Whilst not wanting to drag up the olden days but under the 1980's Anderson side I always felt that in the home matches we'd win - against Saints, Leeds and even Wigan. It was expected (although we rarely turned Wigan over). Now? I haven't a clue what is going to happen. So inconsistent but in the past month the only consistency has been the moribund stuff. On Monday i'd get the players in and start a meet and greet conversation thusly:
"Paul, this is Anthony, Anthony, this is Paul. You're each others' half back partner. Say hello. Scott, this is Patto and say hello to Craig and Rob. Everyone mingle and get to know each other - you all play for Halifax RLFC".
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| Quote: littlerich "That is what I find frustrating. dropping Rob & Tyrer, bringing them back the next week, dropping them again - too much chopping and changing. The side never looks settled. Whilst not wanting to drag up the olden days but under the 1980's Anderson side I always felt that in the home matches we'd win - against Saints, Leeds and even Wigan. It was expected (although we rarely turned Wigan over). Now? I haven't a clue what is going to happen. So inconsistent but in the past month the only consistency has been the moribund stuff. On Monday i'd get the players in and start a meet and greet conversation thusly
Better still do a Sugar. Point the digit and tell them they're FIRED.
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