Looking bleak .................

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got half way down reading it and got bored. its the same thing over and over again from these clubs and its = a licence into super league while clubs like us are praticly told we are making our figures up and crossing our fingures.
the so called team that included all who work for the rfl should be made to answer how they came to give all these clubs their licence and made to answer what ws different in our application apart from lack of debt

A reflection of the whole sport outside the top half dozen , and some clubs and their fans have the missguided idea they could play in SL and perform better than the Salfords of this world, if you cannot grow a club when competetive and winning the bulk of your games, you sure as hell wont build one if you are going to be getting hammered on a regular basis

And that's why James Rule wrote this week about why Widnes have to be self-sustaining. O'Connor has seen a lorry load of money disappear in 2012 with attendances 2,000 down on his minimum target. Wilkinson at Salford always said that 8.000 attendances were needed to at least break even. Too many clubs are NOWHERE near that number - and neither are we by the way.

Super League is a club killer.

Just an opinion of where the sport currently is, mostly neck deep in brown smelly stuff, Although some seem to have lost the sense of smell

all IMO of course

and IMO the sports is in the stuff down to the same person who needs to give answers to the bullsh*t of an excuse not to put us in but say everyone else can have this grade and that

While I dont disagree that Mr Wood is hugely culpable in part for many of the sports current problems , the clubs generally are poorly run with little if any idea's on how to improve themselves

Instead they tend to be lazy and all too quick to blame anything they can to excuse their own failings

cant disagree with that apart from the main thing holding us and many back is the chance to move forward with the main example no promotion which means no interest and as u said in an earlier post "if a club cant gain fans when winning how it suppose to when getting stuffed? well same answer because we arent winning as there is nothing to win when u show your the best in this league all u get is money that doesnt even cover a years wages

I am no fan of the licence system and agree it is a hurdle for ambitious Championship clubs, but ultimatly it is what we have, but to build it up as THE reason any club cannot improve itself is just to make another excuse, dont waste energy fighting what you cannot change, find a way to improve what you can, start with a blank piece of paper and work from there

just working from stats that any clubs heading for promtion can build there fan base on results alone and i dont see another way (i hope im wrong) but all clubs that have gone up have done by the average increasing by results and they all had the chance to go up.
i beleive that if cas had come down and the following year they had no chance to go back up then their average would of fallen drasticly and stayed there until they were in again but this is fax's problem there was no chance to go back up and now by the time we have a team that wins more games than not the interest has died in them fans and it would revive only by the chance of really being promoted from gaining wins and going up

And then when you do go up and take some beatings those ' revived ' fans just dissapear again, this is THE whole point, waiting, wanting, hoping, praying that those ' ex ' fans will come back just because you can include ' SL club ' on your badge is partly what is holding clubs back, let it go, let them go, they,ve left, gone, never to return

Start again, ask yourself why did you start watching your club? , what was it that made it
special ? , how can you recreate that feeling? , which part of your community can you target? , which part isnt already tainted with the preducise and cynicism ?

yes all very true but i look at hull kr as an example to what can be achieved. they built up by winning games gaining fans old and new on the way to promotion and they have had a good stint. i agree with what you say but what is the asnwer then because if its the way you repeatly say on these forums why isnt anyone trying it