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| Felt sorry for Andy tonight, i remenber him coming through the ranks at fax and at that time there was no better player running onto the ball and getting the crowd going. Young, strong, keen and never took a backward step..
Granted he was in a good team but i cant help thinking that if he had better guidence he would have been a bit special?( anyone else read Malcom Reileys book) ?
I have to admit to feeling gutted to see him playing tonight and being a laughing stock for the fans that used to support him.
I remember talking to Stuart Fielden when Hobson ( and Fielden) was in his prime and him saying his nickname at Bradford was turnstile because he used to put his arm out in a tackle and if you ran at the arm he would spin round and round then fall over on his backside.
Thanks for the memories Hobbo.
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| Its been a massive fall from Grace, There's not a single other Ex-Fax player who comes to the Shay and gets treated anywhere near like Hobbo.
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| Andy is s sound guy regardless of what he's like on the pitch, but I don't think he's been the same since he had that really bad break on his cheek/eye socket, a bit like Shads.
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| Quote ="Pepsi Max"Felt sorry for Andy tonight, i remenber him coming through the ranks at fax and at that time there was no better player running onto the ball and getting the crowd going. Young, strong, keen and never took a backward step..
Granted he was in a good team but i cant help thinking that if he had better guidence he would have been a bit special?( anyone else read Malcom Reileys book) ?
I have to admit to feeling gutted to see him playing tonight and being a laughing stock for the fans that used to support him.
I remember talking to Stuart Fielden when Hobson ( and Fielden) was in his prime and him saying his nickname at Bradford was turnstile because he used to put his arm out in a tackle and if you ran at the arm he would spin round and round then fall over on his backside.
Thanks for the memories Hobbo.'"
I feel sorry for Andy too ,when he was younger he was tipped for Great Britain , I too felt upset when our fans started to make fun of him . I know to some extent he "makes a rod for his own back" by trying to kill the Fax players instead of geting on with the game but I still remember the young lad who came through our club. I sponsored him for years and believe you me he was one of the nicest lads about. He was always respectful and you never saw him geting into trouble in the nightclubs which was prevelant at our club in those days. We have sponsored umpteen players over the years but it still choked me when he left to sign for Widnes. He pulled up outside the house with the bigest bunch of flowers I had ever seen, he said he had just signed for Widnes and he wanted to let us know personally before we read it in the paper. He wanted to thank us for all the support we had given him from being a youngster and it wasn`t just us.I heard several of the people at the club like the kit men got gifts too.
It`s not too often you get that from players , years ago they did`nt even know who their sponsors were let alone build up a relationship with them.
I didn`t like it at all when he was being goaded I wonder if it`s time to hang up his boots.
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"I feel sorry for Andy too ,when he was younger he was tipped for Great Britain , I too felt upset when our fans started to make fun of him . I know to some extent he "makes a rod for his own back" by trying to kill the Fax players instead of geting on with the game but I still remember the young lad who came through our club. I sponsored him for years and believe you me he was one of the nicest lads about. He was always respectful and you never saw him geting into trouble in the nightclubs which was prevelant at our club in those days. We have sponsored umpteen players over the years but it still choked me when he left to sign for Widnes. He pulled up outside the house with the bigest bunch of flowers I had ever seen, he said he had just signed for Widnes and he wanted to let us know personally before we read it in the paper. He wanted to thank us for all the support we had given him from being a youngster and it wasn`t just us.I heard several of the people at the club like the kit men got gifts too.
It`s not too often you get that from players , years ago they did`nt even know who their sponsors were let alone build up a relationship with them.
I didn`t like it at all when he was being goaded I wonder if it`s time to hang up his boots.'"
Well, that story just goes to show that players aren't often what they seem to be. Lovely post that.
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| As been said, has/had the potential to be a top forward at this level.......... just makes too many stupid mistakes for me and gives away too many penalties.
You cant do it in this league.
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"I feel sorry for Andy too ,when he was younger he was tipped for Great Britain , I too felt upset when our fans started to make fun of him . I know to some extent he "makes a rod for his own back" by trying to kill the Fax players instead of geting on with the game but I still remember the young lad who came through our club. I sponsored him for years and believe you me he was one of the nicest lads about. He was always respectful and you never saw him geting into trouble in the nightclubs which was prevelant at our club in those days. We have sponsored umpteen players over the years but it still choked me when he left to sign for Widnes. He pulled up outside the house with the bigest bunch of flowers I had ever seen, he said he had just signed for Widnes and he wanted to let us know personally before we read it in the paper. He wanted to thank us for all the support we had given him from being a youngster and it wasn`t just us.I heard several of the people at the club like the kit men got gifts too.
It`s not too often you get that from players , years ago they did`nt even know who their sponsors were let alone build up a relationship with them.
I didn`t like it at all when he was being goaded I wonder if it`s time to hang up his boots.'"
Maybe a great example of folk "judging books by the cover" I suppose ... the majority of fans only see what's on the pitch, and I'm afraid in Hobson's case it's him being a liability to his team mates and who's constantly looking for trouble. He did look a pathetic sight last night I'm sorry to say, maybe he's too wound up when he plays against Halifax?
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| He didnt do himself any favours whinging to the Courier about the criticism the players were getting.
He may be a nice lad off the pitch & I agree he did show potential when he was younger, but now he's just a laughing stock who tries to be the hardman by throwing high shots, trying to wind up the oppo's.
He doesnt work hard enough for the Leigh team in the times Ive seen him play, especially in the NRC game when he touched the ball only once in the second half!
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| Quote ="griffax"He didnt do himself any favours whinging to the Courier about the criticism the players were getting.
He may be a nice lad off the pitch & I agree he did show potential when he was younger, but now he's just a laughing stock who tries to be the hardman by throwing high shots, trying to wind up the oppo's.
He doesnt work hard enough for the Leigh team in the times Ive seen him play, especially in the NRC game when he touched the ball only once in the second half!'"
I agree ,my earlier comments were a personal reflection of a young man who played for us ,his home town team. Who was tipped for Great Britain and gave his all for his home town club.Was quiet and respectful off the field and did not take part in any silly "Halifax players " antics that went on at the time.
As I have said he seems to now concentrate more on damaging the opposition rather than trying to outplay them and it has gone on for some time. So rather than see him ridiculed in that way I just wish he`d give up I don`t like to see it happen to any player least of all a young local lad.
There were times last night he was that intent on harming one of our players he missed the fact the ball had already traveled through another 2 pairs of hands and he was still targeting the origional player.
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| After he got sent off at Fev in the cup earlier in the season, he came back a different player and really looked to have turned a corner, getting MOM a couple of times and generally resembling the player that we'd thought we'd signed.
Since then, however, he's slowly slid back in to his old ways and is currently mounting an attempt to get the world record for penalties conceded in a season
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"After he got sent off at Fev in the cup earlier in the season, he came back a different player and really looked to have turned a corner, getting MOM a couple of times and generally resembling the player that we'd thought we'd signed.
Since then, however, he's slowly slid back in to his old ways and is currently mounting an attempt to get the world record for penalties conceded in a season
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I'd get shot of him surely theres a better player than him. Sad to say but remember we had Bloemy a few years back and he used to cost us games with dumb penalties, not on purpose but you never change these guys and when the red mist descends thats it.
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| Quote ="Wise Man"I'd get shot of him surely theres a better player than him. Sad to say but remember we had Bloemy a few years back and he used to cost us games with dumb penalties, not on purpose but you never change these guys and when the red mist descends thats it.'"
Only trouble is that Hobson and Castle are our only props aged over 21 - and Castle is only 23 (and now injured)! Need a bit of experience in the pack, but Hobson really does need to sort himself out.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Only trouble is that Hobson and Castle are our only props aged over 21 - and Castle is only 23 (and now injured)! Need a bit of experience in the pack, but Hobson really does need to sort himself out.'"
Not good, theres no chance in him changing unfortunately
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| nice guy off the pitch but maybe cos its his home town n the fans know how to wind him up he sees the red mist and gives away all the penalties.
always liked him when with fax.
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| He had a barnstormer against Widnes on Sky earlier in the season.He just concentrated on doing the basics - taking the ball up well and tackling well.
But against us he just seems to want confrontation with all and sundry-it must be frustrating for Rowley and the coaching staff.
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| Quote ="rickster"He had a barnstormer against Widnes on Sky earlier in the season.He just concentrated on doing the basics - taking the ball up well and tackling well.
But against us he just seems to want confrontation with all and sundry-it must be frustrating for Rowley and the coaching staff.'"
Maybe had something to do with Widnes being a former team.He never settled at Widnes and came back to Fax.
Wouldn`t feel feel too sorry about his indicsipline being frustrating for Rowley I still remember the dark days when we were geting beaten by everybody including Leigh. At the end of the game Rowley ran to the South Stand screaming and puting two fingers up to our supporters .So whilst I have every sympathy for the Leigh supporters and hope they can turn it all around at their club .In Rowleys case all I will say is "what goes around ,comes around"
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| I remember watching the academy GF at Thrum Hall back in '97 when Andy was Captain. He stood head and shoulders above everyone else and always led by example. John Pendlebury was sat next to me and my young 'un on the wall at the Pavillion end whilst watching the game and remarked that Andy would go far if he could keep his aggression under control. Prophetic words, indeed. IMO, things started to go bad for AH after that nasty head injury. Shame, really. Get your act together, Andy, and you'll gain some respect back.
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| You often find that dirty players are dirty coz they are not fit enough
I found it palying amateur, when the older players can not longer catch the young uns they just start playing dirty
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| Quote ="Eadie"
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| Cant see why we have posts that generally slag ex players off. Andy was a good servant to Fax and we all know the rest etc. For him to be subjected to some of the abuse he gets when he comes back is totally wrong in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with a bit of banter but its gone too far now with Hobson. People should lay off.....cant see them saying it to his face somehow.
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| Quote ="faxlad66"Cant see why we have posts that generally slag ex players off. Andy was a good servant to Fax and we all know the rest etc. For him to be subjected to some of the abuse he gets when he comes back is totally wrong in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with a bit of banter but its gone too far now with Hobson. People should lay off.....cant see them saying it to his face somehow.'"
I totally agree.
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| I would tell him too his face that he should cut the stupid penalties out as it hurts his team way more than the opponents! he was a good player for us to a degree but then he has for whatever reason gone backwards and not fulfilled the potential he had. Why? Only he can answer that. Why he gives away so many stupid penalties for no reason and tries to be the hardman only Andy can answer that again. I wish him the best, but he has to really sort himself out, as he has earned a bad reputation due to being an idiot at times. Its up to him to change his ways
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| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"I would tell him too his face that he should cut the stupid penalties out as it hurts his team way more than the opponents! he was a good player for us to a degree but then he has for whatever reason gone backwards and not fulfilled the potential he had. Why? Only he can answer that. Why he gives away so many stupid penalties for no reason and tries to be the hardman only Andy can answer that again. I wish him the best, but he has to really sort himself out, as he has earned a bad reputation due to being an idiot at times. Its up to him to change his ways'"
My point is...by discussing his attitude in a constructive way he would probably listen but these people im refering to would not abuse him to his face like they do on the terrace....so why do it at all!
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| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"I would tell him too his face that he should cut the stupid penalties out as it hurts his team way more than the opponents! he was a good player for us to a degree but then he has for whatever reason gone backwards and not fulfilled the potential he had. Why? Only he can answer that. Why he gives away so many stupid penalties for no reason and tries to be the hardman only Andy can answer that again. I wish him the best, but he has to really sort himself out, as he has earned a bad reputation due to being an idiot at times. Its up to him to change his ways'"
i for one cant see why if it was his decision to leave us why he seems so angry and frustrated when he plays us its notlike we rejected him he left for widnes.
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i for one cant see why if it was his decision to leave us why he seems so angry and frustrated when he plays us its notlike we rejected him he left for widnes.'"
Didnt he come back after Widnes and then left for Dewsbury!
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