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| Quote: halifaxxx "Says the clown who decides to live in stockport of all places
Just how old are you? Six? Eight?
Deary me
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| Quote: littlerich "Just how old are you? Six? Eight?
Deary me
Thats a sorry way to duck away from my valid point. Accountant? Pah if i can count the amount of times you make ridiculous statements on here id be the head or PWC
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| Quote: halifaxxx "Thats a sorry way to duck away from my valid point. Accountant? Pah if i can count the amount of times you make ridiculous statements on here id be the head or PWC'"
Here you are son, this is more your level
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| Quote: littlerich "Here you are son, this is more your level'"
Ill have you know that i support both clubs, and can provide written evidence!
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| Quote: halifaxxx "Ill have you know that i support both clubs, and can provide written evidence!'"
I presume the evidence will be a note from your mum
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| Quote: Tony Fax "Anyway, the picture may be clearer when the accounts are available for public inspection (Companies House website say they aren't yet available, even though they're been filed). And Halifax RL's accounts have to be filed before the end of September, as yet they have not.'"
I think both companies will file abbreviated accounts and as such won't have to declare their turnover. Retained Earnings from one balance sheet year to the next does have to be shown though so at least we'll get an official figure for profitability. A debtors figure will also appear on these accounts - both long term and short term which, compared to the current assets shown should provide an indication of liquidity.
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| Boys. Play nicely please or you won't have jelly and ice cream!
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| Perhaps they have over-evaluated intangible assets in order to achieve a tax advantage.
Have they depreciated tangibles on a reducing balance or straight line basis? and if so, has the figure been over or under-emphasised in order to deliver a more blurred image of the true financial situation?
we maynever know
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| Quote: littlerich "I think both companies will file abbreviated accounts and as such won't have to declare their turnover. Retained Earnings from one balance sheet year to the next does have to be shown though so at least we'll get an official figure for profitability. A debtors figure will also appear on these accounts - both long term and short term which, compared to the current assets shown should provide an indication of liquidity.'"
Bluddy 'ell, you ARE an accountant!
Yep, it would have been nice to see the turnover figures but at the end of the day it's all about profitability. One thing that did concern me was that Halifax RL was overdue filing the Annual Return and even though this doesn't incur any penalty, it's still a tad slack.
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| Quote: Tony Fax "Bluddy 'ell, you ARE an accountant!
Profitability may not be the underlying factor that concerns the directors!
what if the financial manager is faced with a situation whereby management bonuses are based on profitability? in such situations it may actually be advantageous to report below-par profit levels!
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| Quote: halifaxxx "Perhaps they have over-evaluated intangible assets in order to achieve a tax advantage.
Have they depreciated tangibles on a reducing balance or straight line basis? and if so, has the figure been over or under-emphasised in order to deliver a more blurred image of the true financial situation?
we maynever know
I don't think over valuing intangibles will give a tax advantage, especially when they won't be paying tax anyway! The accounts don't have to be audited therefore there could be some jiggery pokery, unless the RL insist audited accounts are to be filed.
Something in the statement which would start the alarm bells ringing if I was an investor in Widnes is the use of the word "comfortable". A well known cop out in The City .... it means the opposite of "confident" but of course they won't say that!!
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| Quote: halifaxxx "Profitability may not be the underlying factor that concerns the directors!
what if the financial manager is faced with a situation whereby management bonuses are based on profitability? in such situations it may actually be advantageous to report below-par profit levels!'"
I think Going Concern could be an issue. Will be very very interesting reading the filed accounts, albeit in abbreviated format.
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| Quote: Tony Fax "I think Going Concern could be an issue. Will be very very interesting reading the filed accounts, albeit in abbreviated format.'"
Going concern? isnt that one of the accounting principles whereby it is reflected in the accounts that an entity is assumed to be in operation across the following accounting period?
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| Boring farts the lot of you
As freemans Fan said
The cost of everything , the value of nothing
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