Got to say that I think Steve O'Connor is a great bloke. I've got to know him over past couple of years and one of the nicest blokes involved in rugby league that i've ever met. He loves Widnes and has put a lot of money into the club. He bought me a few beers at the last Halifax match over at Widnes and also invited me to sit with him and his wife for a meal before the game. Thought it was a really nice gesture of him and as one of Halifax's biggest freeloaders I had no problem in accepting his offer.

Spot on , the only accountant to ever build a decent business is the bloke who owns/owned barratts house builders

Accountants are not clever enough to see the ' vision ' of a business

A bit like looking at a RL team ' on paper ' rather than on the pitch where they play

I had one vist me once , he worked for one of my suppliers , it was just after Xmas and we were late paying our account , we explained that we were in a seasonal business and january was always a slow time for orders and it was difficult getting money in , and that the stock we owed for was still unused on the shelves

Our debt at the beginning of jan was about 12 K , by the time he came to see us it was the 3 rd week in jan and we had got the debt down to 7 K

We pointed this out to him , but he still insisted on reducing our credit limit

I asked him if he had any experience running a business , yes he replied he used to run a debt collection business

Very relevant to what he was now doing I replied and suggested that the stocktake must have been interesting " Baseball bats , 3 of , Knuckledusters 5 of "

In the end we paid off the outstanding debt 3 weeks later

His little visit and the reduction of our credit limit cost his company several million pounds worth of lost business in the following years

Accountants good at ' counting '

that explains it then, it's all the accountants fault.

Typical of you Pete.....i was amazed that you gave me the free ticket for the Batley game

It's false. Accountants are great people, despite what that hosepipe wielding former Leigh Director would have you believe.

It was obvious Widnes would post a loss around 1 Million after sorting out the mess of the previous regime. They are a well run organization off the field and have some of the most passionate fans in the game who you can have a bit of banter with usually without any problems during and after the game. Good for them that they have a guy on board who loves the game and Widnes. What impressed me was the way Widnes got on with things after the big disappointment of not being in SL. Gracious and respectful. Its a shame some Fax fans seem to be looking for any negatives about Widnes and other teams. I would expect Widnes to make a profit next year and hope they are successful in their aim of getting in to SL. Fax are a long way off Widnes despite all the good work going on.

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Thankyou a honest fan.I hope you and leigh competitive again.Unfortunanetly you always get someone sniping at another club.Maybe if just had promotion and relegation every year be no bitter fans.Think this franchise business has made fans bitter and hating each other more.I was gutted widnes not got in a the celtic got in but hey ho life can be crap at times.

I meant competitive again next year mate as love the games with fax and leigh and the atmoshere.

littlerich you dont half talk some absolute nonsence

Yeah - i've tried to follow your example but i just can't make myself that stupid, despite wearing a clown's hat and red nose to help me along. Some morons just can't be copied. I bow down to your ultimate stupidity, you're really good at it.

Says the clown who decides to live in stockport of all places

seriously though you should start concentrating on how fax are going to progress rather than suck up to widnes all the time, call yourself a fan?