Anyone who dares criticises this will no doubt be branded as a 'flatcapper'

www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628 This makes interesting reading, however it wont be long before it get somehow erased from the history of the RFL archives. This is a total stitch up, but i would expect anything else from these clowns. We have the best competition for a long time and this is how the RFL treat us, our sport is beginning to become a joke.

www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/n ... p?id=11628 This makes interesting reading, however it wont be long before it get somehow erased from the history of the RFL archives. This is a total stitch up, but i would expect anything else from these clowns. We have the best competition for a long time and this is how the RFL treat us, our sport is beginning to become a joke.

Can we, the fans, oust these incompetent governors of our sport from the offices they hold? It seems to me that, for years, we have held them in contempt for the way they ruin our game in the name of progress. Yes, some of it has been inevitable, but I have no confidence in their ability to promote, direct, and improve the value of Rugby League at any level.

Vote: NO CONFIDENCE.

I've posted this many times on the VT. They all reply that it's pie in the sky stuff anyway and wouldn't happen BUT, if it did, they'd fully support it !!! - at the expense of their club and for the good of the game!!! Very few of them have the integrity to admit they'd be sellfish towards their own club. It's easy being supportive of these harebrained schemes when it doesn't [idirectly[/i affect your club. Pomposity is at home on the VT and of course with the boffins at the RFL HQ where there is no affinity to a club and therefore no understanding of what it means to be a true Rugby League fan.

Ahhhh....

The 'Holier Than Thou' brigade.

It really is bizarre this expansionish crusade the RL is persuing. If anyone watched the Leeds v Catalans play off semi last season, it's as tho the SKY lot were willing a Leeds victory. After all, we can't have an empty Old Trafford, eh? So why the 'ell are they striving for an national / international Super League when they don't want the likes of Harlequins or Catalans to feature in the Finals? Bonkers? Yep! And we had a full Cas - v Warrington and a full Cas-v- Hull KR match on the box recently where the SKY pundits were yet again applauding the intensity between rival fans. Mirror that with the Hull v Harlequins match .. what rivalry? Let SL fall on the inevitable sword. I'm still enjoying the Championship stuff anyway

Once again the RFL lean towards expansion at the expense of traditional clubs. For all the hard work and effort put in by the likes of Widnes, Fax, Barrow, Leigh and others, they drop the hint at pulling the carpet from under all of those clubs in one go.

Promotion and relegation needs to be brought back in, if it's to be my own club (Hull KR) that swaps places then so be it.

Pish up - brewery.

Yep, but it surely means the effect of expansion teams on the crowds in finals is being over exaggerated. The fact that were having this debate anyway proves that people have felt the need to side step the issue of Catalan's home crowds, which are larger than those of Fax, Leigh and Widnes the last time those three teams were in Superleague. Not to mention the excellent 18,000 crowd they got in Barcelona. Superleague was never intended to be the Yorks & Lancs League, it was founded with the intention of being a top level European competition.

And for the record, Toulouse should have to qualify for a grand final like everyone else.

We will see what difference it makes if Catalans get to another final. It will be worse than when London got to the final - half empty. There is no disputing that Catalans are a success. So i dont know why you are coming on here preaching?

Yes Catalan's are a success and do get the crowds to justifie them being in super League however Toulouse got 800 against Dewsbury on sunday which questions is super League big enough for 2 french teams?