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| To be fair, watching it back again and reading comments. Seems LT was trying to deal with any issue with rule breaking with one eye on Calderdale council keeping the shay open and ensuring income. Got heated on both sides. I could be wrong though
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Im not sure which was funnier, Tom Grant's performance or Lawrence Turners.
Im only kidding about the ref it was defo Lawrence Turner's I mean what was he thinking. End of the day you do not speak to your customers like they are something that you just trod in. He has made a complete ass of himself no matter what his intensions, it looks like he needs to keep himself up in his cushty little box where he can flout any covid rules he likes and stay away from the real people.
On to the game I just thought Fev had that little bit extra quality which they should have given the size of their squad and their likely spend compared to ours. The Woody try will be an interpretation rule as he deffo looked short to begin with. A couple more went against us but at the end of the day we struggled to break them down and our halves looked poor, when we did break them down in what should have been an easy try instead of been 8-6 up we were 12-2 behind 2 plays later.
listening to Grix's interview after its going to mean the return of Scott Grix next week because apparently we lacked a leader although I thought we lacked a leader when he has played but hey ho. Woody will no doubt be dropped despite showing some of his best form that he has for Fax or at least moved in the halves where he has never really shown much for us. Robinson is probably going to miss anyway so that probably helps Grix decision but we are crying out for some quality in those 2 positions. Another ridiculous decison dropping Burrough because he didn't have the best of games up at Newcastle, yesterday would have been just the sort of game for him. We saw how much space Moore got and Burrough is twice as quick as him so once again it just seems a very random decision.
Big games coming up now like has been said. We must win the majority of them to be thinking about the top 6.'"
I cant disagree with any of that i will leave the LT incident alone for now i was stood about 10 yards away and i think you summed it up pretty well with what happened. As for the game i thought it would be a high scoring game but i got that wrong defences were on top i thought we held our own pretty well in the forwards and was surprised to see bourough not in the side i think he could of caused fev a lot of problems around the ruck with is pace and direct running something i think moore lacks he seems to want to run threw men rather than in to space and there was some space in that area fev seemed to defend tight out wide and rushed in to shut plays down which they did really well and we didn't take the right options at the right times giving short balls when we should have gone wide and vice verse that for me was the difference between the sides when fev moved the ball it looked crisp and threatening were we seemed indecisive and our ball players seemed hesitant in what they did they didn't have the same conviction in there plays and you will struggle to have much joy against a good defence like fevs playing like that harris inparticular looked to lack confidence he seems to be defending better but is attack seems to lack conviction i thought russell did play with conviction until he got hit late by davies a player who i rate very highly is left arm was just hanging by his side and he struggled with that for the rest of the game hopefully he can shake it of for next week as for the ref i think the penalty count was 10-3 in fevs favour weather that was justified or not i think good refs should be seen but not heard ie not the centre of attention the game isn't about them but some of them do seem to enjoy the attention as for the top six the margin for error gets tighter by the week the pressure is on grix to delver and the players
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| Just listened to the post-game interviews with Grix, I thought you guys played pretty well overall and it was a good contest but Grix has kind of thrown Harris and Woodburn Hall under the bus there hasn't he, think you're going to see his brother back at full back soon for sure.
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| The life of a chairman can be lonely and thankless. I can understand why LT was frustrated. An unprecedented year spent sorting out the old boards mess , and marching through the pandemic. Endless meetings with akward Cmbc. You finally get a game with spectators and within minutes " idiots" ignore the rules because they think they know better and it starts unravelling . It's at that point that other members of the board should have stepped up and helped lawrence out of the hole he was digging rather than disappear to their own social media keyboards . Lawrence will now know who is rowing the boat with him and who is not. My view is lawrence has the fortitude to recognise how he can improve for the future and also root out any rats that may be still on the ship.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Just listened to the post-game interviews with Grix, I thought you guys played pretty well overall and it was a good contest but Grix has kind of thrown Harris and Woodburn Hall under the bus there hasn't he, think you're going to see his brother back at full back soon for sure.'"
scott as looked better in the couple of games he as played this season but overall is performances since rejoining us in 2019 have shown to me he is not the answer simon seems to think he is and he is good at throwing players under the bus but never taking any blame himself
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| Quote ="Ohmetoe"The life of a chairman can be lonely and thankless. I can understand why LT was frustrated. An unprecedented year spent sorting out the old boards mess , and marching through the pandemic. Endless meetings with akward Cmbc. You finally get a game with spectators and within minutes " idiots" ignore the rules because they think they know better and it starts unravelling . It's at that point that other members of the board should have stepped up and helped lawrence out of the hole he was digging rather than disappear to their own social media keyboards . Lawrence will now know who is rowing the boat with him and who is not. My view is lawrence has the fortitude to recognise how he can improve for the future and also root out any rats that may be still on the ship.'"
Other members of the board that were there were polite, courteous, and had people doing what needed to be done. Turner on the other hand was like a Bull chasing a big red rag, there are ways to conduct yourself and that wasn't it. This is at least the second time he has completely misdjudged his audience while dealing with fans. In future maybe its best he leaves things like this to the people that are good at it.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Just listened to the post-game interviews with Grix, I thought you guys played pretty well overall and it was a good contest but Grix has kind of thrown Harris and Woodburn Hall under the bus there hasn't he, think you're going to see his brother back at full back soon for sure.'"
Its a shame really because with Grix at full back we go from having 3 players doing the hard graft to 2 as Grix will very rarely take the ball in and is basically played as another half back and lets face it we wern't exact good when he were in the side were we? We were crying out for a leader in the Bradford and Oldham games so it suggests to me he is not the answer.
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| Quote ="Ohmetoe"The life of a chairman can be lonely and thankless. I can understand why LT was frustrated. An unprecedented year spent sorting out the old boards mess , and marching through the pandemic. Endless meetings with akward Cmbc. You finally get a game with spectators and within minutes " idiots" ignore the rules because they think they know better and it starts unravelling . It's at that point that other members of the board should have stepped up and helped lawrence out of the hole he was digging rather than disappear to their own social media keyboards . Lawrence will now know who is rowing the boat with him and who is not. My view is lawrence has the fortitude to recognise how he can improve for the future and also root out any rats that may be still on the ship.'"
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| All in all Fev probably edged that game, just. We were o.k. but a few mistakes cost us against a very well organised team. On the other hand you could argue, with more than a bit of justification, that a certain Mr Grant has cost Fax four points already this season with yesterday and the bulls game being the ones in question.  Great to be back at The Shay though and hopefully we can get back on't horse next week against Sheffield. Up The Fax! Three Pig's, Ossett White Rat 4.0% Mmm! 
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Its a shame really because with Grix at full back we go from having 3 players doing the hard graft to 2 as Grix will very rarely take the ball in and is basically played as another half back and lets face it we wern't exact good when he were in the side were we? We were crying out for a leader in the Bradford and Oldham games so it suggests to me he is not the answer.'"
with robinson presumably out could he go with grix in the halves and keep woody at fullback me personally playing grix would be a last resort
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Other members of the board that were there were polite, courteous, and had people doing what needed to be done. Turner on the other hand was like a Bull chasing a big red rag, there are ways to conduct yourself and that wasn't it. This is at least the second time he has completely misdjudged his audience while dealing with fans. In future maybe its best he leaves things like this to the people that are good at it.'"
His tone and language towards fans at fans forums in the past have left a lot to be desired and is foul language on sunday to fans weather they were in the wrong or not was way out of order
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| Quote ="hooligan27"Turner out end of'"
I think he should apologise but don't think he should be removed. I mean who makes up the money he has put in? Its not like the club is rolling in money.
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Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I think he should apologise but don't think he should be removed. I mean who makes up the money he has put in? Its not like the club is rolling in money.'"
Not even issued a statement even though its made the examiner lets be fair he is not going to apologize
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/wes ... m-20718876
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Not even issued a statement even though its made the examiner lets be fair he is not going to apologize
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/wes ... m-20718876
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| Quote ="terry silver"His tone and language towards fans at fans forums in the past have left a lot to be desired and is foul language on sunday to fans weather they were in the wrong or not was way out of order'"
The fans language is not always great to say the least! As has been posted before I'm sure his total frustration boiled over. If the 'wonderful barmy army' had got their thick skulls together and done as they were asked this would not have taken place. The rules were stated again and again before and during the game but they decided to ignore it. Is like speeding and then moaning about the police when you get caught. They should take the blame and responsibility of their actions. The council would be in their rights to stop supporters attending games and I'm sure the same people who bemoaned Mr Lawrence having a go at them would bemoan the council when it all stems from them not doing as they are asked to do. Bloody idiots in society who refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions.  Up The Panthers. #Support the Chairman
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It should be the idiots at the top of the south stand apologizing.
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| Russell didn't deserve a place Sunday, however was guaranteed it as part of the loan agreement.
However, I expect Grix at 1, Woodburn-Hall at 4, Russell at 7 and Barber at 12 for next week.
Woodburn-Hall and Borough can feel a little peeved being moved about to make way for players that haven't earned their way in
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| Quote ="Faxlore"The fans language is not always great to say the least! As has been posted before I'm sure his total frustration boiled over. If the 'wonderful barmy army' had got their thick skulls together and done as they were asked this would not have taken place. The rules were stated again and again before and during the game but they decided to ignore it. Is like speeding and then moaning about the police when you get caught. They should take the blame and responsibility of their actions. The council would be in their rights to stop supporters attending games and I'm sure the same people who bemoaned Mr Lawrence having a go at them would bemoan the council when it all stems from them not doing as they are asked to do. Bloody idiots in society who refuse to accept responsibility for their own actions.
Up The Panthers. #Support the Chairman'"
He went straight up to individuals in the south stand with no face covering on not maintaining social distancing putting himself and them at risk swearing before they had even said a word and your defending that i have no problem with him doing as he preaches and asking people at least initially in a Seville manner to abide by the rules and then if they don't by all means kick them out but he behaved like a complete hypercritical prat on drugs if only the players could get that fired up
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| Quote ="terry silver"He went straight up to individuals in the south stand with no face covering on not maintaining social distancing putting himself and them at risk swearing before they had even said a word and your defending that i have no problem with him doing as he preaches and asking people at least initially in a Seville manner to abide by the rules and then if they don't by all means kick them out but he behaved like a complete hypercritical prat on drugs if only the players could get that fired up'"
They weren’t Social distancing! That’s why he was so pussed off! And you need to learn how to construct a sentence and use full stops.
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| Quote ="Faxlore"They weren’t Social distancing! That’s why he was so pussed off! And you need to learn how to construct a sentence and use full stops.'"
He wasn't social distancing by getting in there faces and he wasn't wearing a face covering either as for my grammar i will be in the south stand on sunday you tell me when and where and you can show me the error of my ways to my face
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| Maybe he our chairman could channel his passion/energy or whatever you call it at the council and question why our restrictions appear to be significantly more than other clubs and stadiums. The Govt rules on stadia do not state masks need to be worn expect indoors or fully covered areas, e.g. toilets, entering the stadium etc. And refreshments can be served as long as the customer can then take it back and consume at their seat/place in the stadium. Very few people in the East Stand were wearing masks including the club’s own personnel, but I didn’t see anyone get challenged – seems like he may have made a beeline for the “balmy army”?
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| Quote ="gizempo"Maybe he our chairman could channel his passion/energy or whatever you call it at the council and question why our restrictions appear to be significantly more than other clubs and stadiums. The Govt rules on stadia do not state masks need to be worn expect indoors or fully covered areas, e.g. toilets, entering the stadium etc. And refreshments can be served as long as the customer can then take it back and consume at their seat/place in the stadium. Very few people in the East Stand were wearing masks including the club’s own personnel, but I didn’t see anyone get challenged – seems like he may have made a beeline for the “balmy army”?'"
Has anyone seen photos of the music event at the Piece Hall on Sunday? No social distancing of any kind there.
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| Quote ="Bubba"Has anyone seen photos of the music event at the Piece Hall on Sunday? No social distancing of any kind there.'"
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| I am 100% with faxlore its idiots in society who seem to have lost the ability for humility or common sense . Witnessed a farmer confronting idiots marauding across his soon to be mowed hay meadow last weekend even though a very clear public footpath existed 50 yds away . Their reply...oh there are no signs mate to say we cant walk here so we can do what we want it's the countryside !! ....at which point the farmer completely lost it . It's just the attitude of it's not us that's wrong it's always someone else's fault . Anyway the farmer won .!
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"Russell didn't deserve a place Sunday, however was guaranteed it as part of the loan agreement.
However, I expect Grix at 1, Woodburn-Hall at 4, Russell at 7 and Barber at 12 for next week.
Woodburn-Hall and Borough can feel a little peeved being moved about to make way for players that haven't earned their way in'"
I agree. Fans on Facebook disagreed with me when I questioned the signing of OR. He's been sent here to get game time for the giants, no more no less.
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