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| Quote DemonUK="DemonUK"To allow player development, to allow comebacks from injury. That way you wouldn't have to sign pensioners on stupid salaries and oh look the outcome of that would be you could afford a second string / U21s. It worked for HKR because there was still P&R then, now there isn't you will have 2/3 years bringiong no one through, hence your pensioners and foreigners on EU passports. They will penalise you in the franchise 'war' for having no youth development.
Widnes have scaled back a little on there 1st team and have been succesful at U18 level for the last two years. Leigh have had a successful U21 and then reserve team set up for the last few years, despite what DH Lewis said. To afford 2 teams you pay less to the 1st team, instead of ploughing all your =#FF0000EDITED BY TS. THAT'S AGAINST THE AUP into just one place. Therefore I reckon the RFL should make it compulsory. How many Fax lads are in your 1st team.....one is it? Bet the Crusaders will have more Welshmen than you have players from Fax'"
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I'd be very careful what you say if I were you. Hiding on a message board does not immunise you against the laws of libel. What are your grounds for making those sort of accusations?
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| Quote DemonUK="DemonUK"To allow player development, to allow comebacks from injury. That way you wouldn't have to sign pensioners on stupid salaries and oh look the outcome of that would be you could afford a second string / U21s. It worked for HKR because there was still P&R then, now there isn't you will have 2/3 years bringiong no one through, hence your pensioners and foreigners on EU passports. They will penalise you in the franchise 'war' for having no youth development.
Widnes have scaled back a little on there 1st team and have been succesful at U18 level for the last two years. Leigh have had a successful U21 and then reserve team set up for the last few years, despite what DH Lewis said. To afford 2 teams you pay less to the 1st team, instead of ploughing all =#FF0000EDITED BY TS. THAT'S AGAINST THE AUP into just one place. Therefore I reckon the RFL should make it compulsory. How many Fax lads are in your 1st team.....one is it? Bet the Crusaders will have more Welshmen than you have players from Fax'"
fax had a succesful u21 team up to 2 years ago, won trophies n everything. but none except one were good enough to make the 1st team so what does that say about the standard of players at the other teams. RFL should notice this and do something about it. a fax academy player in the article has been signed up by warrington, same old story. teams at championship level cannot compete with SL.
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| Quote swifty62="swifty62"fax had a succesful u21 team up to 2 years ago, won trophies n everything. but none except one were good enough to make the 1st team so what does that say about the standard of players at the other teams. RFL should notice this and do something about it. a fax academy player in the article has been signed up by warrington, same old story. teams at championship level cannot compete with SL.'"
You have to bite the bullet and do your best. There are loads of lads from Widnes who are are at other clubs like Warrington and Saints. You just have to make do with who you've got and see who comes through. Giving up and purely concentrating on the 1st team is simply not an option for any club wanting a licence. If and when SL comes then the good youngsters will more than likely stay - short term loss for long term gain.
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| Quote vikings 4 ever="vikings 4 ever"You have to bite the bullet and do your best. There are loads of lads from Widnes who are are at other clubs like Warrington and Saints. You just have to make do with who you've got and see who comes through. Giving up and purely concentrating on the 1st team is simply not an option for any club wanting a licence. If and when SL comes then the good youngsters will more than likely stay - short term loss for long term gain.'"
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| Hey demon. Check out the success of Fax's under 21s before it got disbanded before you come on here mouthing off. Seems our =#FF0000EDITED BY TS is a better policy than hoping a team goes bust so you don't get relegated. Let's hope every team is well run this season so Leigh don't get so lucky. Your youth policy really helped you last year eh? At least our board is trying to strike a balance and we have boxes ticked! At least Halifax are in a position to apply, if that were true at your club you would be delighted.
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| I am getting a tad annoyed at fans of two clubs in particular who have money men to fund them being able to run a junior set up, no not jealousy this time its to do with level playing fields as we just cannot afford a junior team or can we???
Thing is RL is just full of holes and I am sick of it, whether it is clubs with money men paying by means not on the radar of salary caps etc... or expansion clubs who have a whole different rule book to the rest, the game is corrupt.
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| Running an u 18's is basically a waste of time at championship level , however some clubs [ including one that got a licence 18 months ago used the NYL to run a team , so you would expect the RFL to accept other clubs using that comp as an academy , wouldn't you
But it seems they dont , I was totally disgusted with the RFL when they brought the ' minimum wage ' argument into the running of juniors
I had a meeting with Bill Appleton and Lee Crooks down at Leigh when I was Academy director , the argument was unless you paid a minimum wage to a set number of players you could not run an u 18's , the u 21's however could play for free , How bloody stupid is that , so you had to give players a contract until 19 , then you could ask them to play for nothing , I pointed out to them that we would be paying u 18's more money than some 1 st team NL 2 players were getting
It is all quite simply another hurdle to jump over , the number of SL players that come through the academies of Championship teams is negligable , basically only Widnes can afford it and if any other clubs want to waste money on it they are stupid
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| So, basically, the RFL are making it difficult for MOST teams to be in a position to take promotion to SL?
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| Quote Tortured Soul="Tortured Soul"So, basically, the RFL are making it difficult for MOST teams to be in a position to take promotion to SL?'"
nothing new there 
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| Not only did the Evening Courier mis-report some of the details in their original article, as I discussed it with Mr. James Roberts, so Nosey Parker has lazily got his facts wrong in today's League Weekly rag. It appears he hasn't checked out some particular facts with regards to individual names/schools, seemingly just taking either this thread or the Courier article as correct. I notice Parker is down to a single page of gossip nowadays, a 50% cut from previous times, another 50% cut on that would do me fine he talks a right load of rubbish and he spends quite a bit of time making excuses for previous stories he got incorrect in the first place.....
He even has something of a surprise in his tone about how Halifax have had their eyes opened with the scouting network in this area, if he was on top of his journalistic game, he'd be informed enough to know that every single boy on the Halifax RLFC scholarship scheme comes from schools or clubs within the Calderdale boundaries, that I can assure him is some hotbed of rugby league at under 14's, 15's & 16's with the top two under 15's sides actually playing up a year as under 16's in the Yorks league after recently leaving the ranks of the West Riding leagues. I wonder how many other RL clubs at any professional level can boast that claim ? Very proud are we at the club of our contacts with the local clubs, coaches & players, OK, so we've missed out on a few, but we've over 30 boys on scholarship forms who WANT to be involved at Halifax now and in the future.
So incensed were the parents & coach of one of the young lads in question, his parents got in touch with me as their point of contact with the club's scholarship to ask what on earth was going on. I then approached our club's football manager for permission to clear a few things up with Mr. Roberts at the Courier, which I did via a telephone conversation recently.
He ( James Roberts ) actually surprised me rather, on how clued up he was on some of the junior talent in the district as I don't see too much of him on the sunday morning touchlines, nevertheless we had a good chat about one or two things topical in the game.
Rant over, but very proud and excited of what's going on at Halifax RLFCfor the future.
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| Quote marillion man="marillion man"Not only did the Evening Courier mis-report some of the details in their original article, as I discussed it with Mr. James Roberts, so Nosey Parker has lazily got his facts wrong in today's League Weekly rag. '"
I'd have actually been suprised if anything he ever reported was true.
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