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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "If you are concerned you might be better contacting the club......'"


I'd rather the club be open with fans. I might buy a season ticket then.
GOD. With that attitude, you'll never grow the fan base

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Quote: jeffvickers "INOUTI'd rather the club be open with fans. I might buy a season ticket then.
GOD. With that attitude, you'll never grow the fan base'"


Open about what?

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I've no idea why you're rolling your eyes and shrugging your shoulders at me, Boots, all I'm doing is revealing on a forum that Fax haven't filed the accounts and I think fans have a right to know. Why is my observation upsetting you so much? Are you the Fax accountant responsible for such slackness? Or is it because somebody other than yourself has noticed and you don't like it? Why are you protecting such incompetence? Eh?

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I have been passed this to post, to answer your query and to stop unnecessary speculation.


 
Dear faxfans.co.uk thread “Well done Fax”,
 
The Board was made aware this afternoon of post within this thread regarding the year end accounts and I would like to take a moment of your time to explain the planned delay.

As you will be aware the RFL metrics for ROI change after the 8s fixtures and due to this change, the board and I took the decision to accept a late penalty which we will personally pay because of the financial structural changes the club requires to meet its new obligations – we are as an example; completing 2 year ends in tandem along with substantial fiscal forecasting which (a) is a RFL requirement (b) meets the new ROI metrics and (c) provides the board and stakeholders with a longer term view. I personally agreed this format with the BoD, our staff, stakeholders and the accountants who needed to prepare the documents, who are working diligently to a tight schedule.
I wish, we had 9 months to prepare the 2nd set of ROI metrics but the RFL only gave the Championship and League 1 clubs the revised EBITDA formula for ROI, 6/7 weeks ago.

I hope this brief update helps.
Best wishes and on behalf of the Halifax RLFC board,
Christian”

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Quote: Fuzzy Duck "I've no idea why you're rolling your eyes and shrugging your shoulders at me, Boots, all I'm doing is revealing on a forum that Fax haven't filed the accounts and I think fans have a right to know. Why is my observation upsetting you so much? Are you the Fax accountant responsible for such slackness? Or is it because somebody other than yourself has noticed and you don't like it? Why are you protecting such incompetence? Eh?'"


So turns out there was a reason and turns out the club were quite open about it once contacted. Yourself and Jeff will have to wait another day for the clubs demise. icon_wink.gif

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Many thanks Halifax1873 for clarification.

Boots - If I hadn't posted what I had, then such clarification would not have been received, so get off your high self opinionated horse! icon_razz.gif

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Quote: Fuzzy Duck "Many thanks Halifax1873 for clarification.

Boots - If I hadn't posted what I had, then such clarification would not have been received, so get off your high self opinionated horse!
Well done then, I will sleep better tonight. icon_thumb.gif eusa_clap.gif a014.gif

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Thanks Christian . The questions contained no malice just supporters interested in the club and its future.particularly if you are performing the accounts and CEO roles Greg Florimo is clearly very sensitive about this years accounts for some reason maybe because they might show a marked improvement in certain areas? Well spotted Fuzzy duck I await your assessment of the accounts when they land .

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "There could be all sorts of reasons for that to be fair.'"

Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "You have experience of filing accounts then? No chance it could be Companies House late to update?'"

Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "If you are concerned you might be better contacting the club......'"


Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Thanks Christian . The questions contained no malice just supporters interested in the club and its future.particularly if you are performing the accounts and CEO roles Greg Florimo is clearly very sensitive about this years accounts for some reason maybe because they might show a marked improvement in certain areas? Well spotted Fuzzy duck I await your assessment of the accounts when they land .'"


Hardly very sensitive am I? Stating a fact, asking a question, and then suggesting a way to get an answer.

I would expect the accounts to show pretty much what they have shown for a number of years, that the club gets by on the skin of its teeth with Directors and fans covering any shortfalls which occur. Nothing out of the ordinary for any RL team. Sadly this year may be the last time that it happens as we as a game start to put the final nails in to the coffins of the lower league teams.

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I notice the accounts have been filed.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06190029
I notice the accounts have been filed.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06190029


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Quote: Dbvada "I think that the new accounts show that someone probably has converted money he had provided in support to shares, given that Mr Steele was allocated big number of shares we must assume his generosity was behind this.

Frankly it’s amazing that people are willing to do this and he follows a long line of people from Gartland, Pearson, Posner and even Brooke who have stopped the club vanishing.

I’m no accountant so can someone explain why last years numbers are “restated”. It looks like a lot of debtors have vanished?'"


You could ask at the fans forum the club are arranging. Give you lads a chance to dig out the suits. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Dbvada "I’m no accountant so can someone explain why last years numbers are “restated”. It looks like a lot of debtors have vanished?'"


Probably because it's the first year of adopting FRS102. Fax lost £7k for the year ended 30/11/17, and if this is based on lower "prize money" for failing to qualify for the Middle 8s in 2016 (the funding is lagged) then that's a brilliant effort. I'd like to know who the £137k "trade debtors" are - the RFL?

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