a sugar daddy is someone who poors money in for a hoped instant sucess and thats putting words in my mouth and i never said that.
find it easier to talk to fans with ambition lol but i understand why u have quit on your club, i havent mine yet as i know its not the current directors fault we are where we are in fact they have done everything right to get us where we belong but held back from a corrupt sport that dont really want us to grow and stopping us being top tier is doing that end of.
some people are happy being down in this division winning make beleive cups and thinking its better than being beat most weeks up there but thats again a negative attitude for the long term and the fans who say this i guess dont ever want to see us in another wembley final. yes it will be hard for a few years but it the good with the bad and it will be worth it given the chance

HRLFC is a business, so anybody that subsidises a business is a SD, once again where would that money be spent, on what exactly?

Why do you belong in SL? , how have they ( directors ) done everything right? , they are businessmen, have they ,are they increasing revenue/customers?

Leigh are due to win the CC again in 2021 , but I wont be holding my breath, neitger should you

There is only 1 way to guarantee getting into SL, get 5,000 fans down to every match at the Shay in the Championship and you could not be refused

i wont bother filling in all those boxes tonight its getting late. but as for your last comment even if wigan got relegated and had a bad season they wouldnt get 5k unless they were winning and heading to what i started with which is promotion.
my main point is no matter what we/other club do at this level IMO wont grow without first going up and then buidling the business the right way and im no business man but that involves spending to gain on merchandise ect and future youth but again you cant gain from spending on that unless someone is there to buy it and by given the chance of promotion and gaining fans on the way then they can become the custom to what u intend to grow

oh and i will add one more tonight as i feel your unfair to question if our directors have done whats needed.
they have got us running debt free and won what should be a promotion match so yes i feel they have done their job on that side. in terms with the licence? perhaps not but im comparing with the other 6 clubs or so that shouldnt be there if we arent allowed simple as that.

So no P and R, no growth?

This is what I find so funny, people call me negative and pessimistic, and yet they offer no idea's other than the tried, tested and failed

I only wanted 1 box filling, and it is relatively simple, what do you spend money on to grow your business and increase the number of customers you have?

and i answered it and like i said im not a businesman but still left my opinion

I didnt realise your directors played in the GF, what relevance to your ' business ' does the performance of other businesses have?

Once again ,have your directors significantly increased your businesses turnover/income and number of customers?

Yes it shows, and you didnt answer the question

from above

im no business man but that involves spending to gain on merchandise ect and future youth but again you cant gain from spending on that unless someone is there to buy it and by given the chance of promotion and gaining fans on the way then they can become the custom to what u intend to grow

you say promotion, relegation doesnt work as does that moron stevo but im sure over the last 100 years many clubs have gone up and down and gone on to win trophys and making money along the way. was it spent right by the majority? probably not but i feel clubs in our position have learnt and should be given a go and would do a better job that the salfords.

goodnight starbug

Working on your own you will never make significant income from merchandice

Explain future youth?

hey im a fan and i have my oppinion and the funny thing is starbug that i will probably have more agree with me than do yourself who thinks you no better than anyone but your only grievence is no one wants to listen to you because your the one with unrealistic oppinions and it shows

For the vast majority of its life RL had 1 division and clubs reied on local players and the winning of trophys has nothing to do with running sports businesses

I'd suggest the vast majority of clubs that won trophys lost money

What have clubs in our position learned? , Leigh certainly havent learned anything and wouldnt do a better job than Salford, and lets face it is that the sum of your ambition? Getting hammered 3 weeks out of 4

Nighty nite

Licensing is a great idea. If it has a clear objective and the governing body has the balls to both give chances to clubs that match clearly defined criteria and punish the clubs that don't. If the governing body are to be seen to take their own system seriously it needs to be continuously monitored so those people committing misdemeanours are the ones punished, not the people left to clear up the mess.

We have been sold the need for licensing on a number if issues - stadia - joke, financial security - Bradford, crusaders and now Salford. Geographic location - you can still throw a duvet over 99% of SL clubs and crusaders are gone. Youth development - now it seems that has all been given to championship clubs.

Fans of the sport at all levels are seeing the truth now. Licencing a great idea shockingly implemented leaving Super League looking like it started out life as a list of clubs jotted down on the back of a fag packet one boozy night and is not to be strayed from one bit.

Hardly a surprise people are switching off.

As an aside, the RFU are selling naming rights to twickers and investing the money in lower league clubs to keep P&R sustainable. Seems they copied many things from RL but steer clear of licensing!

Having others agree with failed ideas isnt neccessarrily a good thing, it explains why clubs like yours and ' mine ' are still in the Championship playing in front of less than a couple of thousand fans

I dont have grievances, I am dissapointed when I see supposedly clever people making the same mistakes that have been made over and over again, eventually even a Chimpanzee realises it cant pull a banana out of a hole sideways