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Quote: SingaporeFax "The concerning point for me was that he couldn't get a response from them. Last week, York had lost 2 on the bounce, one to Sheffield which I am sure they thought would win; they put 60 on Swinton. We never struggled to make metres yesterday and yes, we made error after error in their 20, but we seemed unable to turn any momentum towards us. Oldham won on making fewer errors and if we were being ruthless, both teams were terrible. People don't have patience with Grix because our expectations are related to our previous history

Spot on literally no response to last weeks drubbing. As you say about the standard on show, it looked like two teams of relegation standard playing each other.

Good players do not always make good coaches and good coaches were not always good players. We seem to be in the habit of testing our ex players to see if that is true. Next time let other teams test and go for someone with actual coaching experience of leading a team.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Spot on literally no response to last weeks drubbing. As you say about the standard on show, it looked like two teams of relegation standard playing each other.

Good players do not always make good coaches and good coaches were not always good players. We seem to be in the habit of testing our ex players to see if that is true. Next time let other teams test and go for someone with actual coaching experience of leading a team.'"


Spot on.

Just reviewing all the games Grix has been in charge of (sad I know); apart from the start, winning 5 of the first six, we've won 5 of the last 24 competitive games. We are a losing club, with clearly losing habits. I don't think you turn that around quickly. It's easier to see a trajectory if we were underperforming beforehand under Marshall but we weren't. We are not marginally but SIGNIFICANTLY worse under Grix right now.

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The real problem was never Harrison Calland Ball Anderson Marshall or Grix ,although all had rectifiable faults all had positives as well . It's about working with people .not destroying them , when you sit down this week BOD you will see the real problem straight in front of you .

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Spot on literally no response to last weeks drubbing. As you say about the standard on show, it looked like two teams of relegation standard playing each other.

Good players do not always make good coaches and good coaches were not always good players. We seem to be in the habit of testing our ex players to see if that is true. Next time let other teams test and go for someone with actual coaching experience of leading a team.'"

It's called the cheap option. icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Hudd-Shay "It's called the cheap option. Indeed Pete, it is.

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Another telling factor regarding experience as a group is within the dressing room.
Anybody who has ever played the game and joined a new club will know it takes time to bond and to feel at home.
The first few weeks and thus games you can and do feel and play like an individual instead of part of a unit.
At the moment you have a dressing room where a good few haven’t been together long enough to feel settled and build that teamwork steel and spirit that pulls you together and I believe that’s why they look lost, their playing as individuals.
When the game goes against you SG is struggling to cope and so are they.

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Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "Terry.... if you want to try and score points on fev.... feel free cocker. But this thread isn't about fev.
As I said earlier, you can vent your spleen as oft as you like. That is entirely your perogative.
BUT, it does not negate from the current issues facing fax. Grix, like those before him and in all likelihood those that succeed him, is hampered by the lack of available resources to take fax beyond where they are.
You may disagree. C'est la vie.'"

I am not trying to score points of fev quite the opposite i was paying your club a compliment but you take every thing i say as a insult to fev when i have got a lot of time for your club but you dont seem to get that. As for the lack of resources i am well aware of were we stand financially but despite this we have finished in the top 4 seven times since 2010 that is not a bad record and that is all i think we should have a very good chance of doing this season but we are a million miles away with are performances we have more chance of being relegated then achieving that and i dont accept that our level is fighting relegation

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Quote: terry silver "I am not trying to score points of fev quite the opposite i was paying your club a compliment but you take every thing i say as a insult to fev when i have got a lot of time for your club but you dont seem to get that. As for the lack of resources i am well aware of were we stand financially but despite this we have finished in the top 4 seven times since 2010 that is not a bad record and that is all i think we should have a very good chance of doing this season but we are a million miles away with are performances we have more chance of being relegated then achieving that and i dont accept that our level is fighting relegation'"

Either way.... this thread isn't about fev.
I maintain that with this squad Trent Robinson wouldn't make much difference. Pete hit the nail on the head earlier. The cheap option.
Until a chairman, owner, gaffer.... turns up with the business kudos, acumen and readies to fund a decent squad, nowt will change.
Every fax coach for ten years has been the subject of criticism on here and social media.
Your current squad isn't bad per se, but lack quality in the halves and it shows.
That said, it's just like fax to beat our lot on the 30th.

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Quote: Ilkley Fax "Like most supporters on this forum I was delighted with the squad assembled this year - while covid situation probably brought some players within our budget that wouldn't otherwise have been, I would guess we still probably pushed the budget to the limit. While I've no idea what money Grix is on - I would be very surprised if we had the money to pay him off and then employ a new, more experienced, and therefore likely more expensive coach. If change just isn't feasible as supporters we have 2 alternatives - we slag off the coach at every opportunity, further reducing the confidence of both the coach and the team - or- however crap todays performance was - we get behind him in the hope he can turn things round.'"

hello IIkley i come in peace i agree with most of your post is there not a couple more options would it not be possible to get grix some more experienced help in like we did when brian noble came in on the short term to help matt calland i no you would have to question what is the point of having a assistant coach that is what sheriffe is for but something is Cleary not right.Also and i no i am probably on to a loser here but what about the club using the squad builder money to sign a new coach it is there for new players but i think we need a new coach more then new players right now

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Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "Either way.... this thread isn't about fev.
I maintain that with this squad Trent Robinson wouldn't make much difference. Pete hit the nail on the head earlier. The cheap option.
Until a chairman, owner, gaffer.... turns up with the business kudos, acumen and readies to fund a decent squad, nowt will change.
Every fax coach for ten years has been the subject of criticism on here and social media.
Your current squad isn't bad per se, but lack quality in the halves and it shows.
That said, it's just like fax to beat our lot on the 30th.'"

i agree with you it was taking the cheap option by the club but what does that cost the club in the long run if it doesn't work out.I also agree about our halves and have said so in previous posts but i dont agree about even Trent Robinson wouldn't make any difference i find that very hard to believe we will have to agree to disagree on that one and all being well we will be able to attend the game on the 30th in person

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "I were quietly confident that the team that we had put together would be good enough for 4th and at a push maybe 3rd. the problem is we look to be a team of individuals with no team spirit whatsoever and are just going through the motions. I think it could be time up for Grix unfortunatley just in an effort to save our season, whatever he is doing or trying is not working and the players do not seem to be trying for him. Some need to take a good hard look in the mirror because they are letting him down big style.

Its a very typical Halifax thing for something to get the big build up like the rebrand has only for the players to disappoint on the field. The question has to be what are our chances of making the playoffs with Grix in charge from this point? I would say its slim so then its a question of how much does the club lose in lost revenue from a team not performing compared to how much it costs to pay a coach off with what I believe is another year and a half left on his contract and then the chances of making the play offs with a new coach.'"

very good post greg i cant disagree with any of that

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We should beat a team like Oldham. Bigger budget. No excuses .
Halfbacks too inexperienced. For me you need a old head at HB and someone willing to get hands dirty.
Coach was given job ... why. Had no experience even as a assistant. Marshy learned of a great coach in Tony Smith.
We was promised a expansive game and to be entertained by Croad. Rawsthorne who is talented player hardly gets the ball.
We need a change. Grix isn't the man by looks of it.

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Quote: SingaporeFax "The concerning point for me was that he couldn't get a response from them. Last week, York had lost 2 on the bounce, one to Sheffield which I am sure they thought would win; they put 60 on Swinton. We never struggled to make metres yesterday and yes, we made error after error in their 20, but we seemed unable to turn any momentum towards us. Oldham won on making fewer errors and if we were being ruthless, both teams were terrible. People don't have patience with Grix because our expectations are related to our previous history
again a very good post singaporefax

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Quote: terry silver "all being well we will be able to attend the game on the 30th in person'"

Well.... under usual circumstances I would offer to continue this conversation over a pint in the three pigeons on the 30th with a few other fax fans I know. However, that is my Ruby wedding anniversary and in all likelihood I will be otherwise deployed!!

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Quote: SingaporeFax "Spot on.

Just reviewing all the games Grix has been in charge of (sad I know); apart from the start, winning 5 of the first six, we've won 5 of the last 24 competitive games. We are a losing club, with clearly losing habits. I don't think you turn that around quickly. It's easier to see a trajectory if we were underperforming beforehand under Marshall but we weren't. We are not marginally but SIGNIFICANTLY worse under Grix right now.'"

keep it coming spot on post

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