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| The reality is your ground is going to be taken over by Bull's fans and your team are going to be knocked out of the cup. All in all, a not so good draw for Halifax after all !
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| Quote ="montoya6"The reality is your ground is going to be taken over by Bull's fans and your team are going to be knocked out of the cup. All in all, a not so good draw for Halifax after all !'"
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| Quote ="montoya6"The reality is your ground is going to be taken over by Bull's fans and your team are going to be knocked out of the cup. All in all, a not so good draw for Halifax after all !'"
Cheapskate Bulls fans with free tickets I wonder how many of the great loyal Bradford fans would pay to watch this game? What made me laugh was the article in the League express saying beacause of a great marketing campaign Bradford Bulls sold 11,000 season tickets what it forgot to mention is they practically gave them away. So jog on you Si 
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"Cheapskate Bulls fans with free tickets I wonder how many of the great loyal Bradford fans would pay to watch this game? What made me laugh was the article in the League express saying beacause of a great marketing campaign Bradford Bulls sold 11,000 season tickets what it forgot to mention is they practically gave them away. So jog on you Si
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Actually its 11,000 adult tickets, with OAP, Students and Childrens tickets your looking at between 13 - 14,000! Allowing for the fact I am using the minimum prices here this is what bradford have got;
£99 to sit down in the cheap seats, its practically full but for arguements sake probably about 3,000 adults thats a minimum of £297,000.
8,000 in the stands at £60 giving you £480,000.
As a minimum students / oaps and kids have paid a minimum of £45, which if 2,500 bought these giving £90,000.
Thats £889,500 as a minimum bulls have got from this, I would guess its probably about £1 million if you factor in the actual costs! Without the extra merchandise, food and beer in the ground!
Not a bad marketing strategy really when you look at 4,000 season ticket holders last year - 3,000 adults and 1000 kids / students etc at £160 average you are looking at about £550,000. Nearly doubled our revenue for triple the crowd, drinks and merchandise revenue!
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| We as the home team are compensated tor the free tickets used by Bradford, by the rfl. I'm not sure to what extent, but I'm sure an email to rfl operations would give you the answer everyone is guessing at.
I now remember bulls fans... two letters to the rfl stand out in my mind which perfectly demonstrate the single minded, parochial, caisleyistic mindset of our friends from brighouse.
Firstly, a 'heiffer' complaining that Halifax fans were singing 'if you all hate Bradford clap your hands' during the 20-20 kneegate...she promised never to set foot in the shay again...one can only hope foot and mouth saw to her.
Secondly, a Bradford 'fan' complaining that he could not a get a cup final ticket, because of all the neutral hangers-on preventing real (pot chasing, glory hunting, shallow wastes of skin) Bradford fans seeing their team in the final...they had to dedicate an 8 page pull out to all the letters received in response.
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| Quote ="Liane"Actually its 11,000 adult tickets, with OAP, Students and Childrens tickets your looking at between 13 - 14,000! Allowing for the fact I am using the minimum prices here this is what bradford have got;
£99 to sit down in the cheap seats, its practically full but for arguements sake probably about 3,000 adults thats a minimum of £297,000.
8,000 in the stands at £60 giving you £480,000.
As a minimum students / oaps and kids have paid a minimum of £45, which if 2,500 bought these giving £90,000.
Thats £889,500 as a minimum bulls have got from this, I would guess its probably about £1 million if you factor in the actual costs! Without the extra merchandise, food and beer in the ground!
Not a bad marketing strategy really when you look at 4,000 season ticket holders last year - 3,000 adults and 1000 kids / students etc at £160 average you are looking at about £550,000. Nearly doubled our revenue for triple the crowd, drinks and merchandise revenue!'"
I noticed you have not included any costs in your working outs.
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| bradford fans..you couldn't make them up.....hilarious...they dont even want shad in their side ffs.
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"I noticed you have not included any costs in your working outs.'"
What costs ? , he was comparing income , not all the bulls accounts
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| Quote ="Starbug"What costs ? , he was comparing income , not all the bulls accounts'"
Printing costs, tax etc and I think he is a she
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"Printing costs, tax etc and I think he is a she'"
Well tax is an obvious taken , printing costs ? Not huge with today's technology
This ST initiative might work for them , and others might follow , as long as they get the 1.2 million as well they should be fine
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"I noticed you have not included any costs in your working outs.'"
No, because I have no figure to work that out! I have compared the 2 incomes generated from just season ticket sales, as Starbug pointed out.
The stadium is always fully open regardless of whether we play leeds or catalans along with all the turnstiles! I would guess it would be few more behind the bars and possibily stewards. But if we always opened up the whole of the stadium I would think that the stewards on the whole would be covered anyway for most games.
Printing the tickets, well its a membership card, and probably come in the teamcard deal but it would be less than £1 in my experience of procuring similar items at a volume of other 5,000! We would pay tax regardless, more money we bring in, the higher the tax bill will be yes, but it all swings in roundabouts. 10,000 adults was a figure for a reason at £60 standing and £99 sitting, we have got 1,000 above that and then adding in some of us paying for 5 - 25 yr season tickets from £500 - £15,000 i think the club isn't doing bad!
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| Quote ="Starbug"Well tax is an obvious taken , printing costs ? Not huge with today's technology
This ST initiative might work for them , and others might follow , as long as they get the 1.2 million as well they should be fine'"
My point was that they only sold the amount of season tickets they have because they was cheap now they go on like they are the best supported team ever and that they should be given the god given right to have 11,000 free tickets for this cup tie thats why some of them think the game should be moved to Odsal but this is a cup tie and they have been drawn away and thats the magic of the cup am I right? Where was the 11,000 fans at Dewsbury in the 4th round last season? How many tickets would they sell for this tie if it was not free? Loyal to the core aint they.
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"My point was that the only sold the amount of season tickets they have because they was cheap now they go on like they are the best supported team ever and that they should be given the god given right to have 11,000 free tickets for this cup tie thats why some of them think the game should be moved to Odsal but this is a cup tie nad they have been drawn away thats the magic of the cup am I right? Where was the 11,000 fans at Dewsbury in the 4th round last season? How many tickets would they sell for this tie if it was not free? Loyal to the core aint they'"
They have taken a business decision , just like many people do all the time
Yesterday a customer of mine questioned a price I had given them , my answer was , " I have two choices , I price stuff too expensive and go bust through lack of work , or I price stuff too cheap and go bust through lack of profit "
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| Quote ="Starbug"They have taken a business decision , just like many people do all the time
Yesterday a customer of mine questioned a price I had given them , my answer was , " I have two choices , I price stuff too expensive and go bust through lack of work , or I price stuff too cheap and go bust through lack of profit "
Good choice eh
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| Quote ="tommy"Don't leave us hanging. Which did you choose?
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Not my choice , he either wants my product , or an inferior one , my days of being a busy fool are over , there's always the dole
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| Quote ="Starbug"They have taken a business decision , just like many people do all the time
Yesterday a customer of mine questioned a price I had given them , my answer was , " I have two choices , I price stuff too expensive and go bust through lack of work , or I price stuff too cheap and go bust through lack of profit "
Good choice eh
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That is up to them and if it works for them and gets people interested again then good for them what it is thats actually winding me up is them as a result wanting 1000s of free tickets at the club I loves exspense.
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"That is up to them and if it works for them and gets people interested again then good for them what it is thats actually winding me up is them as a result wanting 1000s of free tickets at the club I loves exspense.'"
Once again you need to look to Red Hall for that one , something ' Dicky ' and ' Nige ' thought up over morning tea and ' biccies ' 
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| being thats its unlikely the north stand will be sorted in time i think the free tickets should be for the skircoat only and if they still want to attend after the skircoat stand tickets have gone they can pay like anyone else. i dont think its wise to make it all ticket as this has backfired many times in the past as fans often decide on the day to see how they feel and the weather ect. if we make it all ticket many will just think "i will watch it on bbc"
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| Quote ="lmw"being thats its unlikely the north stand will be sorted in time i think the free tickets should be for the skircoat only and if they still want to attend after the skircoat stand tickets have gone they can pay like anyone else. i dont think its wise to make it all ticket as this has backfired many times in the past as fans often decide on the day to see how they feel and the weather ect. if we make it all ticket many will just think "i will watch it on bbc"'"
The North stand as to be ready whats with the hanging around?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Once again you need to look to Red Hall for that one , something ' Dicky ' and ' Nige ' thought up over morning tea and ' biccies '
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Trust me I think them 2 have a lot to answer for 
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| Quote ="lmw"being thats its unlikely the north stand will be sorted in time i think the free tickets should be for the skircoat only and if they still want to attend after the skircoat stand tickets have gone they can pay like anyone else. i dont think its wise to make it all ticket as this has backfired many times in the past as fans often decide on the day to see how they feel and the weather ect. if we make it all ticket many will just think "i will watch it on bbc"'"
You are obliged to give them a percentage of the available capacity , and to avoid H and S issues ( ie , all 10,000 turning up demanding to be let in ) it is highly unlikely that a council run stadium will not have this match all ticket , let alone the issues of large amounts of money being taken at the turnstiles
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"The North stand as to be ready whats with the hanging around?'"
because they will have to draw up plans of making calls to contractors to do the work and how long does this usually take the council? i think if it was planned to do soon we would of heard something. i know the council has agreed to pay but getting them to do it is hard work
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"Trust me I think them 2 have a lot to answer for
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It is a stupid situation to be in, and another well thought out RFL strategy to get more in at the challenge cup. No offence to other clubs, but if it wasn't Halifax I don't think it would be as big an issue with the season ticket holders. But this game means a lot to both sets of fans, its a derby we haven't had competitively for a long time and one I have been wanting to come up in the challenge cup for a while!
It will be all ticket no doubt about that! And if this was later on in the rounds, it would be a huge money maker for you and that I would guess most Bradford fans with any common sense would feel bad about! I have jokingly said on the bulls board move it to odsal and give Halifax 100% of the ticket sales profit and 50/50 profits from the bar etc so that you can get some money out of it. RFL seriously need to think about this for next season though taking into account what Bulls have done and the liklihood other teams will follow suit as it is harsh on all the fans who have got a ticket and are entitled too a freebie.
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| Quote ="Liane"It is a stupid situation to be in, and another well thought out RFL strategy to get more in at the challenge cup. No offence to other clubs, but if it wasn't Halifax I don't think it would be as big an issue with the season ticket holders. a freebie.'"
It is a big issue to most clubs if you look at the draw , only one all SL clash means around 8 other Championship clubs will make bugger all from this round of the Challenge Cup , with 3 others drawing clubs with no decent traveling support anyway
Basically the Challenge Cup is dead as far as Championship clubs are concerned as a money making venture
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| Quote ="Starbug"It is a big issue to most clubs if you look at the draw , only one all SL clash means around 8 other Championship clubs will make bugger all from this round of the Challenge Cup , with 3 others drawing clubs with no decent traveling support anyway
Basically the Challenge Cup is dead as far as Championship clubs are concerned as a money making venture'"
I do think you are in a slightly worse situation, but I do see your point, if you get a home draw you should be able to benefit from it! I would suggest the RFL are compensating for it. I would guess though most other fans don't have everyone signed up too a season ticket, so maybe have walk up options. Most people likely to go too a bradford game now have a season ticket.
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