I can understand your frustration at the present time , but no team has a divine right to turn up and win , you say drawing to the 11th in the table,as if it was a failure , maybe Worky played well ?I don't know , I do feel we at Leigh will lose a game this season that nobody expected us to lose , it happens .As for a Clubs ambition I saw at first hand at the Leigh game recently the amount of hard work and effort the Marketing Team and Directors are putting in , a great match day experience , I think the problem lies with your coach , im not saying get rid , but do the players truly want to play for him ?We need a strong Fax team in this League , I for one truly hope you turn the corner very soon , I think you will .

Sorry mate and I admire your positivity I really do. However the Cumbrian sides this year are pretty poor and 3 wins is a must for club who allegedly have top 2 ambition. It's fans like you that let the club off the hook by playing spin doctor, looking to find positives when a radical shake up is required. I understand you wanting to be postive and many say I'm too negative. I just say what I see as you do and we all want the same thing. However we have a coach who has taken us backwards, crowds are declining, marketing is non existent and the club seems out of touch with its fans. That to me is a travesty...... I agree the league is more competitive but you only need look at Worky's results lately to see we should be beating these sides. The decision to let Brown go after a half gets injured and a month KH must have had an idea Murrells missus was giving birth just shows what a clown we have for a coach. You build a squad to cope with injuries, suspensions etc yet we will get all the excuses going..... I fear the direction we are being taken in and can't see us beating Rochdale or Donny or Dewsbury for that matter away from home based on current and previous seasons under KH. Mediocrity should not be an option we should settle for.

Aaaaaaaand He's gone.

Positives for me,
Tonks in super form. Tyrer back to his best. Potts and cowling look class. We have in Ben J one of the most exciting players outside of SL genes him getting player of the month in April. Keith Holden getting a chance at last. Competition for places in the team. We are half way through the season with allot play for, we have some big games against the teams around us in the league, if we win more than we lose well finish 2nd.

I agree that the crowds are poor currently and that the club have to be seen to do more to improve this.

On the whole i can't see any reason to be pressing the panic button.

Think positive. There's only Leigh who are at the minute way in front in terms of performance and we should have beaten them! If we'd have won that game I think the attitudes on here would be a lot different.

Bastian was/is Fev's version of David Moyes. Difference being they've acted before its too late for this season. Yet were stuck with KH , what does that tell you? No ambition, no finances? Not sure but our Board should have acted by now but they either can't or won't which either way is not good enough.

No panic button just 3 years of boring rugby, mediocrity, an excuse laden coach and bizarre squad selections? No panic button required as I feel in the current form we will continue on a downward spiral unless things change quickly. You can keep polishing your turd as long as you like or burying your head in the sand but our coach isn't up to the job.

A cracking read this morning on where we are currently at/going with both sides of the argument well put. Main point is we all care about the club and want the best for our team and its supporters. I am a 'half full' person and still believe we are capable of doing something. The worry for me is that I think we maybe struggling for finance and have been for some time. That is not a good place to be and does restrict what we can do both on and off the field.It then becomes a downward spiral and that is the risk we run if we do nothing. I agree if you accept mediocrity-that is exactly what you will get-mediocrity.Time for the true leaders to stand up-both on and off the field methinks and make those tough decisions.

Cowling had a disrupted pre season because of injury so I guess he can be excused for looking out of sorts but Potts looks more than out of his depth. He cost us the game against Batley and the game up at barrow contributed to making Cowling look terrible in the 2nd half. I would have Paul White back and I dont think he is anywhere near good enough for a top 6 team.

I feel Colin that various players over the 3 years have played under Rhino and many times the team has looked clueless and void of a proper gameplan. If it was just one season fair enough but Fax have looked very poor and underachieved with different players etc that Karl has brought in. It just seems to me Karl is not the coach for us and his methods have not worked for various squads. I put that down to him rather than individuals.


Harrison said: “I’m naturally disappointed that we didn’t win the game but at least we are going home with two. Harrison said the biggest problem he had was preparing his players when they didn’t know what they would be up against.I thought our forwards worked very hard, as they had to, but our backs just didn’t sparkle. We didn’t ask enough questions of Town when we had the ball."
Excuses again from Karl. Every week is something. Sorry but we should be good enough to beat Workington and it is for me a feeble excuse saying Wigans Dual regs made the Difference. Why did we allow Simon Brown to go on loan and bring nobody in? Mennell at 6? Recipe for failure is down to Karl and his signings and tactics. Top bloke but was a mistake to bring him here as coach. He has had long enough to prove his worth and has failed. Fax will not do anything under Karl Harrison and the board need to start looking elsewhere for a coach who has a clue about modern Rugby League and how to get the best out of players. Even if we do somehow manage to get 2nd place I cant see the club doing well under Karl looking at the past 3 years.

I understand that the board of directors have invited us all on this forum to match the funds they have put into OUR club over the last three years and that Karl and his coaching staff would welcome our input on training nights and match days.

Well i can tell you Simon Brown is doing nothing for us, but there again nobody is doing nothing for us, I'm afraid we aint much of a team this year.

Thanks for that Batlad. In all in sincerity, it's a shame Batley lose their players - they could have been a great side this season if not. The more competitive clubs, the better it is!

Never been an Adamson fan and Cowling has looked poor. Heaton - not sure, not quite been there this season.

I feel we are missing Robinson and Worrincy. Rob pushes hard and teams struggle with him. Saxton as his centre would be awesome.

I feel the issue as at number 6, Murrell for me needs to play at 13 therefore we need a number 6 - I have no idea why Brown hasn't worked, I would be tempted to try him again with Johnston.

Dont know what games you are all watching. Cowling has been one of our best players in every game he has played.

There are a number of disparaging remarks about Workington on this thread but how many have been aware that we have had a run of injuries over a number of weeks where we have had upwards of 7 players out at one time. On Sunday we put together our fit players with four Wigan juniors - Murphy (played all last season for SW Scorpions); Farrell (under 19 player hasn't made SL debut yet); Manfredi (winger making his first appearance for us) and Powell (again first appearance for us but has been playing a few SL games) - but for your coach to say that the four Wigan players were the best players on the field is just poor excuse making comments.

The players who were the best on the field were local players Brett Phillips, Marc Shackley, Carl Forber, Graham Mattinson, Liam McAvoy plus Andy Bracek for yourselves. Under Phil Vievers I can see a lot of improvement in our team and don't worry one or two others will lose at Derwent Park this season.

I think Mr Harrison needs to look at his own squad and his own abilities and not look for excuses. He never mentioned the fact that Town only had 1 recognised prop forward in our squad and that although we had 17 names on the team-sheet one of those players, one of our starlets Callum Phillips, didn't even make an appearance so we played with a 16 man squad.