[quote="Listenup94":xkdnr2e0]It's all part of the masterplan to get bradford back in superleague.[/quote:xkdnr2e0] Well if getting Bradford back into Super League is the master plan frightening to think what the mini plan for the rest of us is.

[quote="faxcar":2t07ep9o]Well if getting Bradford back into Super League is the master plan frightening to think what the mini plan for the rest of us is. :shock:[/quote:2t07ep9o] There isn't one. The rest don't count, SL and the RFL have made that abundantly clear...and we voted for it!

My favourite gledhill moment was when he said he did the show impartially whilst wearing his bradford shirt.

[quote="Hudd-Shay":310oqgxy]There isn't one. The rest don't count, SL and the RFL have made that abundantly clear...and we voted for it![/quote:310oqgxy] You keep saying we voted for “it”, what actually is the “it” because if you mean IMG and what was proposed WHEN it was voted for things are a far cry from then to what it is NOW. Many of the other clubs from Super League and Championships who voted for what was promised then are now seriously considering voting against it because of failure to deliver and have taken advice on whether they can or can’t remove IMG with conflicting conclusions, it’s briefly mentioned in the full 80. Are you saying Fax and all the others outside Super League voted to have no plan for their clubs from the governing body or for them not to count?

[quote="Listenup94":pd8jfc3z]My favourite gledhill moment was when he said he did the show impartially whilst wearing his bradford shirt.[/quote:pd8jfc3z] My favourite Mick moment was when he finally stopped talking half an hour after saying he would be brief.

[quote="faxcar":q5cwqu74]You keep saying we voted for “it”, what actually is the “it” because if you mean IMG and what was proposed WHEN it was voted for things are a far cry from then to what it is NOW. Many of the other clubs from Super League and Championships who voted for what was promised then are now seriously considering voting against it because of failure to deliver and have taken advice on whether they can or can’t remove IMG with conflicting conclusions, it’s briefly mentioned in the full 80. Are you saying Fax and all the others outside Super League voted to have no plan for their clubs from the governing body or for them not to count?[/quote:q5cwqu74]Whatever it was or is was never right for us.I firmly beleive we voted for it with a gun to our heads,which is the only reason I personally dont labour my objections to the whole charade..

[quote="Miserybusiness":17o82wyj]Whatever it was or is was never right for us.I firmly beleive we voted for it with a gun to our heads,which is the only reason I personally dont labour my objections to the whole charade..[/quote:17o82wyj] I’m led to believe the club asked around and spoke with their counterparts and with that feedback we fell into the category of realising our vote was meaningless as regards to the inevitable outcome and with or with out it our chance of progressing wouldn’t change much either so not so much a gun as opposed to there was little point in voting against it. For some it’s just another thing to blame the club over.

[quote="faxcar":x1sjzqia]I’m led to believe the club asked around and spoke with their counterparts and with that feedback we fell into the category of realising our vote was meaningless as regards to the inevitable outcome and with or with out it our chance of progressing wouldn’t change much either so not so much a gun as opposed to there was little point in voting against it. For some it’s just another thing to blame the club over.[/quote:x1sjzqia] That is about it, meaningless. So why not say no, we'll vote against it as a protest? At least that way it would have shown we have a modicum of pride left in our club and wouldn't just follow on like the rest of the sheep.

[quote="Miserybusiness":ztzhh5dm]Whatever it was or is was never right for us.I firmly beleive we voted for it with a gun to our heads,which is the only reason I personally dont labour my objections to the whole charade..[/quote:ztzhh5dm] At least they'd have finished us off there and then under that scenario instead of inflicting a slow lingering death on us. See you tonight, lol!

[quote="Hudd-Shay":192rqczd]That is about it, meaningless. So why not say no, we'll vote against it as a protest? At least that way it would have shown we have a modicum of pride left in our club and wouldn't just follow on like the rest of the sheep.[/quote:192rqczd] It’s called the majority seeing the bigger picture as opposed the single mindedness tunnel vision of one person. I’ve already explained the reasons for deciding against a protest vote that too would have been meaningless and they not seeing the point in running the risk of being black listed which could have been meaningfully detrimental in the wrong direction. If having pride in the club comes down to that one decision to go with the majority which differs from your opinion then not just Fax but all the owners of the clubs view and decision takes precedent and as with your stand against DR you’ll have to be disappointed, pride less and clearly since the bulk of them voted for it in the minority with a stance that likewise is meaningless.

[quote="Hudd-Shay":cu1s4i6p]At least they'd have finished us off there and then under that scenario instead of inflicting a slow lingering death on us. See you tonight, lol![/quote:cu1s4i6p] Maybe a question that can be put regarding their current opinion on the IMG farce, and see if they can answer with a straight face why there's a requirement for 50 seats for the press when in reality only the local rag and League Express attend And definitely a question needs to be asked about the booking fee! I notice York aren't charging such a fee for our visit, and it's only £15 a ticket! 2 pints of ale different But I wouldn't expect any answers we don't already know. Everything will be a "work in progress". It shouldn't be called "Questions and Answers", it should be called "Questions but no answers"!

[quote="faxcar":3l38ag6s]It’s called the majority seeing the bigger picture as opposed the single mindedness tunnel vision of one person. I’ve already explained the reasons for deciding against a protest vote that too would have been meaningless and they not seeing the point in running the risk of being black listed which could have been meaningfully detrimental in the wrong direction. If having pride in the club comes down to that one decision to go with the majority which differs from your opinion then not just Fax but all the owners of the clubs view and decision takes precedent and as with your stand against DR you’ll have to be disappointed, pride less and clearly since the bulk of them voted for it in the minority with a stance that likewise is meaningless.[/quote:3l38ag6s] Clear as mud! P S. I watched The Full 80 minutes. Why do they call it that when it only lasted 42 minutes? Ridiculous!

[quote="Tony Fax":1bl0j363]Maybe a question that can be put regarding their current opinion on the IMG farce, and see if they can answer with a straight face why there's a requirement for 50 seats for the press when in reality only the local rag and League Express attend And definitely a question needs to be asked about the booking fee! I notice York aren't charging such a fee for our visit, and it's only £15 a ticket! 2 pints of ale different But I wouldn't expect any answers we don't already know. Everything will be a "work in progress". It shouldn't be called "Questions and Answers", it should be called "Questions but no answers"! [/quote:1bl0j363] Courier do not bother turning up to Fax games. Too busy extolling the virtues of the football.

[quote="Hudd-Shay":18dfx46w]Clear as mud! P S. I watched The Full 80 minutes. Why do they call it that when it only lasted 42 minutes? Ridiculous![/quote:18dfx46w] Could it be because it’s about the game of rugby league that is typically 80 minutes instead of how long the program lasts. More like thick as mud

Very brief commentary on the fans forum Shay stadium looking likely to be owned by davy but negotiations still in progress. Hmrc , confidence high on winning the case. Squad depth, reading between the lines relying on st helens but acknowledged more permanent additions required. Don't know mccarrons injury but he didn't have a pot on and walked in without crutches and walked in with everyone else after training.

[quote="Listenup94":3ma5sygs]Very brief commentary on the fans forum Shay stadium looking likely to be owned by davy but negotiations still in progress. Hmrc , confidence high on winning the case. Squad depth, reading between the lines relying on st helens but acknowledged more permanent additions required. Don't know mccarrons injury but he didn't have a pot on and walked in without crutches and walked in with everyone else after training.[/quote:3ma5sygs] Thought one aspect of the KD ownership that was interesting that the upgrades to the loos would include a number of automated toilet roll dispensers for those who expect to have their ar*se wiped at home games. Apparently Davy had noticed York had couple.

Another thing to note is the negativity around finn , both clayton and then salty made separate comments regarding this , salty said something along the lines of ' when you've been working all day you want training to be fun and interesting and it wasn't it was boring ' On the flip side lots of positivity regarding eastmond leading to a happy camp.

[quote="Listenup94":1xbi3qon]Another thing to note is the negativity around finn , both clayton and then salty made separate comments regarding this , salty said something along the lines of ' when you've been working all day you want training to be fun and interesting and it wasn't it was boring ' On the flip side lots of positivity regarding eastmond leading to a happy camp.[/quote:1xbi3qon] Aye, it was quite a scathing, and telling, comment that!

[quote="Listenup94":29le3qoj]Very brief commentary on the fans forum Shay stadium looking likely to be owned by davy but negotiations still in progress. Hmrc , confidence high on winning the case. Squad depth, reading between the lines relying on st helens but acknowledged more permanent additions required. Don't know mccarrons injury but he didn't have a pot on and walked in without crutches and walked in with everyone else after training.[/quote:29le3qoj] So nothing we don't already know! And I bet Salty having a "moan" about Finn didn't go down well with one of the audience, did he get heckled?

[quote="Tony Fax":39ar6lof]So nothing we don't already know! And I bet Salty having a "moan" about Finn didn't go down well with one of the audience, did he get heckled? [/quote:39ar6lof] There was a bit more indepth info regarding said matters and like I said a brief summary. Interestingly someone did bring up the price of tickets but unfortunately they sounded like a drunk nora batty or they had been spiked with ketamine so it got lost in the moment.

It can be viewed on video later but only worth a watch if you don’t already know everything. So one person needn’t bother.

I always say this, those who choose to see the white dot on the blackboard have the problem , there's no doubt in my mind however many things are done right they will choose to find something wrong . A fans forum not long ago when grix said we were punching above our weight was criticised despite two third placed finishes and a cup win at Wembley , I dare say regardless of what we achieve it'll be shot down but that's their problem not the clubs.

[quote="Listenup94":3vybrg02]I always say this, those who choose to see the white dot on the blackboard have the problem. Part.[/quote:3vybrg02] I don’t remember you saying that, I’m sure you've never said that and just checked with a few others and they don’t recall you saying that either. A black dot on a white board yes but a white dot on a blackboard that’s another matter. Could be a case of either colour blindness or you’ve been talking and muttering to yourself again, nothing to be too worried about though, probably just down to being married.

I really like the idea of the shadow board but think it might have been better going for a little older with this maybe 18-21 or a touch higher(Only think that way as it might be better having people with a little bit of life experience). We have discussed it on here about the average age of our fanbase and one look at the average age of people there last night and you can see whole generations of fans missing. Hopefully something like this shadow board can start putting forward ideas that is going to keep the ages from around 16-30 engaged with the club.

Well my thoughts are it went really well with a number of the current main issues brought up to date as far as could be with not long to wait for the decisions on HMRC and the ground. Loads of work going on behind the scenes with some success on the commercial side, still lots to do with ideas and initiatives active and on the agenda and looking for more suggestions and in that area it seemed like there was a link between having to cut the cloth accordingly-staff levels-workload-progress and only being able to do so much at a time. Absolutely no question about commitment levels from the club and anyone who can constantly knock them mouthing off whilst sat on their ars*e are a disgrace and should be ashamed, shut up and stay away.