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Quote: Starbug "Yes but they have stated that 837 k of that loss is down to takeover , infrastructure , set up and SL application costs

Leaving a ' real ' season loss of 149 K

This season the figures will be income 950 K , costs 950 K , or something fairly close to that'"


OK.
hope our s/l application wont cost so much icon_eek.gif

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[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy. A wind up merchant but a good lad. :lol:[/quote] [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote] OOpps - nowt changes !! [b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!! Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!! Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!! Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !! Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!! Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!! Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!! Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]:8043.jpg



Quote: wereutherein1987? "whats not to understand? YOU HAVE SPENT MUCH MORE THAN YOU HAVE EARNED, SIMPLE.

many clubs do this but to the level Widnes have in anyones book 'suprising''"


Widnes will have good liquidity.

Obvious they will lose on year 1. That will soon be re-couperated.

No championship club get anywhere near a 1m turnover, hence the reaon they are one shoe in. Fax will need to double their gates to get anywhere near this!

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Quote: Snowy "Widnes will have good liquidity.

Obvious they will lose on year 1. That will soon be re-couperated.

No championship club get anywhere near a 1m turnover, hence the reaon they are one shoe in. Fax will need to double their gates to get anywhere near this!'"



Why, your gates aren't double ours?

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "their owner owns Stobarts, he's not an arab.'"


He's an Arab compared to our owner!!

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Quote: "Why, your gates aren't double ours?'"

snowy is a leigh fan, he's not trying to get involved in any bickering between widnes and fax and whose dick is the biggest, but merely pointing out that halifax (and any other heartland championship club) have to increase their attendances to widnes' level to even stand a chance of an application to sl to be successful

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: hoofhearted "snowy is a leigh fan, he's not trying to get involved in any bickering between widnes and fax and whose dick is the biggest, but merely pointing out that halifax (and any other heartland championship club) have to increase their attendances to widnes' level to even stand a chance of an application to sl to be successful'"


Spot on , Quite simply all non SL clubs and the RFL should be making the doubling of all clubs attendances the biggest priority

Unfortunatley the RFL dont have a clue , or they dont want strong heartland clubs outside SL

Take your pick icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Spot on , Quite simply all non SL clubs and the RFL should be making the doubling of all clubs attendances the biggest priority

Unfortunatley the RFL dont have a clue , or they dont want strong heartland clubs outside SL

Take your pick
I thought RFL offered clubs some "university type" some time back to increase attendances on a part time basis. I can`t remember much about it now I am sure someone mentioned it a few months back. Was it taken up by anyone and if so was it sucessful?

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Quote: johnny freeman fan club "I thought RFL offered clubs some "university type" some time back to increase attendances on a part time basis. I can`t remember much about it now I am sure someone mentioned it a few months back. Was it taken up by anyone and if so was it sucessful?'"


What is needed is personnel as in ' workers ' on the ground , something for them to work from and then money to allow the clubs to offer good deals or preferably free entry

Plus a dozen other things

I wont be holding my breath

In the Championship this year 6 clubs have provided the best , closest finish to any RL [ and possibly any sports ] competition ever in living memory

3 other clubs in this comp have also provided upsets to those 6 clubs

Only Leigh and Donny [ for obvious reasons ] have failed to step up to the mark

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The majority of Money SO'C has pumped in is what he WANTED to!

I.e. the new seats... internet cafe areas inside stadium for players add the debts paid off that's all taht cost gone after 1 season! So you take that away next season and you'll prob find we'll be looking healthier than any other side in this league!

Also the hiring of TO'C, Sacking and hiring coaches etc comes into it all. The club now has everything already set in place (bar players arguabbly) so nothing else is needed next year whereas say Halifax now need to finish that stand... 100k? And run youth team... ours was 250k? So see how they start to add up etc!

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Quote: J20 "The majority of Money SO'C has pumped in is what he WANTED to!

I.e. the new seats... internet cafe areas inside stadium for players add the debts paid off that's all taht cost gone after 1 season! So you take that away next season and you'll prob find we'll be looking healthier than any other side in this league!

Also the hiring of TO'C, Sacking and hiring coaches etc comes into it all. The club now has everything already set in place (bar players arguabbly) so nothing else is needed next year whereas say Halifax now need to finish that stand... 100k? And run youth team... ours was 250k? So see how they start to add up etc!'"


The shay stadium isn't owned by Fax, we rent it.

would hope we dont lose equivalent to our turnover in developing a youth team!

lets see icon_confused.gif

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "which club in the world of sport lost more than it's turnover?'"


:s Most football clubs are either in debt or operate at a loss. It how they substain it. Rugby league is different because of the cap but some will still do this.
I think thats right about RL anyway.

Plus if widnes win the 150k in the final, they'll be laughing.

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "The shay stadium isn't owned by Fax, we rent it.

would hope we dont lose equivalent to our turnover in developing a youth team!

lets see
Well better hope they decide to finish your stand off then icon_cool.gif

Point being missed is Widnes are now 100% debt free and have a set up better thn alot of sides in SL! That year it took alot of SOC's cash now where plain sailing... Happy days... also we won't be making big losses come franchise year when other clubs may have to to get upto standard!

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Quote: J20 "Well better hope they decide to finish your stand off then
What happens when your money man gets bored?

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The same thing that happens when warrington's or huddersfield's or Barrow's, We cut back. But we would still be the biggest club outside of SL with the biggest Salary cap.

SOC made it clear he was going to spend £1M or therabouts on infrastructure. He did it, its done.

This seasons figures will be more telling. Read into it what you like, the real scary thing for you should be that in a disappointing season where we were knocked out of the playoffs in round 1, out of the norther rail in the Quarters and finished just in the playoffs we managed an income of Near £1M.

No one in this league could do the same, time to raise your game boys.

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