FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Halifax Panthers > Stop the Rot
52 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
International Star1743No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Aug 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



What in your opinions needs to happen to stop the rot?. Losing 3 out of the last 4 only 1 bonus point and down to 4th.

Good things off the pitch with investment and structure however it's on the pitch we are dire, boring and clueless. This isn't knee jerk reactions. We have been boring all year.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1460No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



A Backs coach, some decent centres & half-backs + hooker required.

I reckon Harrison will be given 1 more year.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member18789No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Faxhali "What in your opinions needs to happen to stop the rot?. Losing 3 out of the last 4 only 1 bonus point and down to 4th.

Good things off the pitch with investment and structure however it's on the pitch we are dire, boring and clueless. This isn't knee jerk reactions. We have been boring all year.'"


We had a slow start and it was said - "wait till the dry grounds come". In May we were running on Asphalt. Now we're running through treacle. I think we are resigned to the fact that we're just not good enough - season long - to finish in the top four. Things could dramatically turn around during play offs but there's no sign of that happening.

One thing that frustrates me - player contract negotiations DURING the season. It's a terrible affliction and yes, it affects every team but if you're a player that hasn't been contacted for a chat about 2014 when others are waving around a four year contract then you're going to be deflated. It has to affect performances on the field. I don't know what the answer is.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13012No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Apr 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Faxhali "What in your opinions needs to happen to stop the rot?. Losing 3 out of the last 4 only 1 bonus point and down to 4th.

Good things off the pitch with investment and structure however it's on the pitch we are dire, boring and clueless. This isn't knee jerk reactions. We have been boring all year.'"

CHARLIE knew icon_wink.gif I said on Wednesday "We are Behind you ", now its "We are in front of you ",someone of this Forum said before the Leigh game Fax were on Fire icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif , well they are now burnt out icon_wink.gif Littlerich , Swifty ,Faxhali ,Halifaxjohn , and Bentleyman ,Charlie Knew icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif .

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13012No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Apr 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: littlerich "We had a slow start and it was said - "wait till the dry grounds come". In May we were running on Asphalt. Now we're running through treacle. I think we are resigned to the fact that we're just not good enough - season long - to finish in the top four. Things could dramatically turn around during play offs but there's no sign of that happening.

One thing that frustrates me - player contract negotiations DURING the season. It's a terrible affliction and yes, it affects every team but if you're a player that hasn't been contacted for a chat about 2014 when others are waving around a four year contract then you're going to be deflated. It has to affect performances on the field. I don't know what the answer is.'"

Rich , Charlie thinks your Avatar has got a Headache icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif .

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6698No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2017Feb 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: jeffvickers "A Backs coach, some decent centres & half-backs + hooker required.

I reckon Harrison will be given 1 more year.'"

He has done 2 years of his 3 year contract (I believe)

RankPostsTeam
International Star5No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2014Aug 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



We need to change our tactics plus the halfbacks? Will be there till the end of the season but it's all very frustrating. We have bags of effort but need more guile.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13012No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Apr 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: jeffvickers "A Backs coach, some decent centres & half-backs + hooker required.

I reckon Harrison will be given 1 more year.'"

Penky ?Littlerich will have the Rosary Beads outs ,and painting the back of the Bog Door again icon_wink.gif .

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1309No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Part of the answer LR is play your best team consistently, stop chopping and changing all the time, playing players out of position. Patto at FB?? We signed Heaton as a FB from Oldham, we've converted him to centre. Surely it makes sense to play a FB in such a specialist position??

I'm sure Harrison will be given another year but tactically I just don't think he's up to it. When his back was up against the wall at Salford their fans constantly moaned about boring rugby, route 1 etc (sound familiar??). His player recruitment is questionable, I grimaced as soon as he announced Thackeray and Handforth as his "dream team" as I'd personally never rated Thacks and Handforth had always kicked around mid table Championship sides at best. Admittedly he always stood out....

I think KH as a big job to turn this around and the problem the club faces is that whilst he doesn't fans will turn off. In 34 years of watching Fax I've never been so non plussed about watching them and in fact drag myself to home games currently. I used to attend away games as religiously as home games but now go to the odd game. Some if it is down to cost, some down to my family and kids but mostly the fact that I don't enjoy watching them currently. How can we attract new fans when our main event is poor and the match day experience is no better currently with little pre match entertainment. I know this is down to cost but we should do more in my opinion.

The club needs to start telling fans about the exciting stuff for next year, who we've signed (other clubs do it) to whet the appetite and make a big song and dance about our push for SL. Maybe offer a voucher that gives you a % off a season ticket for new or lapsed ST holders but they only get it by getting a card stamped at the turnstile at the remaining home games?? Announce the new ST price at the last home game, signings etc and get people to sign up now. This gives fans longer to pay etc...

I don't know but my major worry is fans getting turned off and not coming as I know how I feel right now. If Harrison doesn't do something he could cost us a few speccies.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2143
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: hippman "We need to change our tactics plus the halfbacks? Will be there till the end of the season but it's all very frustrating. We have bags of effort but need more guile.'"




We don't seem to have much effort near our line in the dieing minutes of these games to get or stop a bonus point being awarded. icon_rolleyes.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star792
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Mar 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



League table never lies I'm afraid. Leigh game was a bruiser and costly for a Fax team bereft of quality and creative half backs and centres! Sorry but we are in true position now with our current squad. Confidence is a key factor and losing 3 out of the last 4 at the business end of the season is recipe for' let's get this season over with asap and start again next year etc.' Big year for Karl next year and the club.If we don't perform when it really matters then karl is really under pressure.
We are just on a roller coaster ride this season now as to where we finish and what happens in play off.
Fax have my support win lose or draw but am not sure about others!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2714No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2019Aug 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: chris_smith "Part of the answer LR is play your best team consistently, stop chopping and changing all the time, playing players out of position. Patto at FB?? We signed Heaton as a FB from Oldham, we've converted him to centre. Surely it makes sense to play a FB in such a specialist position??

I'm sure Harrison will be given another year but tactically I just don't think he's up to it. When his back was up against the wall at Salford their fans constantly moaned about boring rugby, route 1 etc (sound familiar??). His player recruitment is questionable, I grimaced as soon as he announced Thackeray and Handforth as his "dream team" as I'd personally never rated Thacks and Handforth had always kicked around mid table Championship sides at best. Admittedly he always stood out....

I think KH as a big job to turn this around and the problem the club faces is that whilst he doesn't fans will turn off. In 34 years of watching Fax I've never been so non plussed about watching them and in fact drag myself to home games currently. I used to attend away games as religiously as home games but now go to the odd game. Some if it is down to cost, some down to my family and kids but mostly the fact that I don't enjoy watching them currently. How can we attract new fans when our main event is poor and the match day experience is no better currently with little pre match entertainment. I know this is down to cost but we should do more in my opinion.

The club needs to start telling fans about the exciting stuff for next year, who we've signed (other clubs do it) to whet the appetite and make a big song and dance about our push for SL. Maybe offer a voucher that gives you a % off a season ticket for new or lapsed ST holders but they only get it by getting a card stamped at the turnstile at the remaining home games?? Announce the new ST price at the last home game, signings etc and get people to sign up now. This gives fans longer to pay etc...

I don't know but my major worry is fans getting turned off and not coming as I know how I feel right now. If Harrison doesn't do something he could cost us a few speccies.'"


I have to say I found myself agreeing with your post. Go back a few years and I never missed a game home or away, whatever day it was on. I didn't go to Leigh and there was no way I was going to drag myself up to Cumbria today and I'm certainly glad I didn't go to either game. But I have found myself not missing the day out. I remain committed to the home games, and thankfully our remaining away game is just a few miles away. I guess I have mentally wrote off this season and I am looking for some big changes for next season.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13012No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Apr 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: spanishbob "I have to say I found myself agreeing with your post. Go back a few years and I never missed a game home or away, whatever day it was on. I didn't go to Leigh and there was no way I was going to drag myself up to Cumbria today and I'm certainly glad I didn't go to either game. But I have found myself not missing the day out. I remain committed to the home games, and thankfully our remaining away game is just a few miles away. I guess I have mentally wrote off this season and I am looking for some big changes for next season.'"

"OLE , OLE , OLE ", Spanishbob icon_wink.gif .

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member18789No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: chris_smith "Part of the answer LR is play your best team consistently, stop chopping and changing all the time, '"


That is what I find frustrating. dropping Rob & Tyrer, bringing them back the next week, dropping them again - too much chopping and changing. The side never looks settled. Whilst not wanting to drag up the olden days but under the 1980's Anderson side I always felt that in the home matches we'd win - against Saints, Leeds and even Wigan. It was expected (although we rarely turned Wigan over). Now? I haven't a clue what is going to happen. So inconsistent but in the past month the only consistency has been the moribund stuff. On Monday i'd get the players in and start a meet and greet conversation thusly:

"Paul, this is Anthony, Anthony, this is Paul. You're each others' half back partner. Say hello. Scott, this is Patto and say hello to Craig and Rob. Everyone mingle and get to know each other - you all play for Halifax RLFC".

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2143
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: littlerich "That is what I find frustrating. dropping Rob & Tyrer, bringing them back the next week, dropping them again - too much chopping and changing. The side never looks settled. Whilst not wanting to drag up the olden days but under the 1980's Anderson side I always felt that in the home matches we'd win - against Saints, Leeds and even Wigan. It was expected (although we rarely turned Wigan over). Now? I haven't a clue what is going to happen. So inconsistent but in the past month the only consistency has been the moribund stuff. On Monday i'd get the players in and start a meet and greet conversation thusly



Better still do a Sugar. Point the digit and tell them they're FIRED.

52 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
52 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


8.86083984375:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5766
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6s
Film game
karetaker
5766
10s
Transfer Talk V5
Seth
517
13s
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
25s
Pre Season - 2025
Hullrealist
191
28s
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
32s
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
50s
Salford
Smiffy27
59
58s
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,137 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5766
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6s
Film game
karetaker
5766
10s
Transfer Talk V5
Seth
517
13s
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
25s
Pre Season - 2025
Hullrealist
191
28s
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
32s
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
50s
Salford
Smiffy27
59
58s
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!