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| Sad state of affairs seeing club implode again!
Radicle, but rather than throwing money into a pot that can never be filled, declare bankrupt take the medicine, very hard on everyone, especially creditors, but really Fax have not helped themselves this has not happened over the past couple of years. Take the ‘news’ The Fax shop will be open on match days !! I would have thought that needs to be a staple requirement of any business to be open when the footfall is most prevalent.
Then If enough people are prepared to contribute to a new Halifax RLFC with a board who have some business nouse, not just enthusiastic people, and I have admiration and respect that they have put themselves up to be shot at.
Some can and will say that it is easy for me to write this living 000’s of miles away.
As mentioned above I will not throw money into a deepening hole but will seriously consider scraping some pennie’s together for a new start.
If the end of the world is neigh for rugby league as seems a real possibility, I will be gutted for the Fax and their faithful, and I hope Super League and Sky will be able to sleep soundly when the Championship disintegrates, as stated previously it will only take one for the domino effect.
As a final rant Mr N Wood has a lot to answer for, ‘Blue Sox’ my a&$e.
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| How established business men can play roulette with the tax man is quite frankly obsurd .
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| Quote Listenup94="Listenup94"How established business men can play roulette with the tax man is quite frankly obsurd .'"
Can only guess from the info we have but possibly see a sort term rally with contributions from those with connections to the club and from the fan base that's left.
Paying the tax man is the first priority because he won't wait but even if they manage to scrape enough together to settle that, still questions of what's happening with the ground rent payments and the Shay, wage payments, can they fulfil the fixtures that involves the travel to Toulouse.
If they don't fulfil the fixtures there will be punishment from the RFL and even if they declare bankruptcy with an exodus in the Board room and terraces and nowhere to play how can they reform or be allowed back in.
What would be the point anyway without a new board with the finances to be able to fix it so if there is anyone we should find out pretty soon or we'll be gone.
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| I really hope there is a positive outcome for Fax. I am a firm believer that our sporting clubs represent our town positively, much more than the highly glorified Piece Hall - this isnt a dig at the PH, but I think our clubs put us on the map more than the PH does. To lose one of them would be extremely depressing.
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| Quote Bubba="Bubba"I really hope there is a positive outcome for Fax. I am a firm believer that our sporting clubs represent our town positively, much more than the highly glorified Piece Hall - this isnt a dig at the PH, but I think our clubs put us on the map more than the PH does. To lose one of them would be extremely depressing.'"
Does the Piece Hall put us on the map? Recently a Mastermind contestant was asked "In what West Yorkshire town is the Grade 1 Listed Piece Hall..." (There was some further part to the question about its past use or something). Her answer was "Leeds" - The PH is well known in the area, but further away few people know about it, many people see the photos on facebook and refuse to believe it's even in the UK!
As for Fax, I'm wary that any fundraising monies will be handed over and poured into a black hole. Only got to go back 10 years or so when Bradford raised half a million quite quickly, handed it over, and the business still got wound up. A third party (supporters trust perhaps?) should be holding onto the money until people know how it is going to be spent.
No one bar a couple of people know the full extent of the debts, how much money is needed to get to the end of September, Then October, then through the winter with limited income. Some transparency would be nice here.
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| Quote Bubba="Bubba"I really hope there is a positive outcome for Fax. I am a firm believer that our sporting clubs represent our town positively, much more than the highly glorified Piece Hall - this isnt a dig at the PH, but I think our clubs put us on the map more than the PH does. To lose one of them would be extremely depressing.'"
So do I but to be fair if we've got to this sorry state then it shouldn't and cant continue.
Genuine question, do you know how will it work out for Town and the Shay with the council seemingly set on getting rid because of the well publicised costs and financial issues if FC are the only ones down there, are there any plans in place?
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| The hubris of the last board has left us desperate. Indeed, any short term funding has to be held and communicated in trust. Lack of credible assets has always hampered the club since the move to the shay. If we are on the block, Town won't be far behind if they are left holding the shay. It really beggars belief that the playing budget was inflated by 150k and evenmore derisory knowing the IMG changes were coming and never being able to compete with Wakefield. Which of the sponsors have gone to the wall? Im not sure if I was seeing things on the highlights from the Donny game but the Colfax sponsor was gone from the shirt??
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| It depends how you measure the map. Its certainly received a lot of nationwide media coverage and is a place which brings people into the town specifically to visit it.
I am guessing the FaxTrust isnt a proper supporters trust? I know it has good people involved, but it seems to have ended up existing purely to raise funds and hand over, no questions asked. Its times like this that would have hoped it would have held onto the money and built up a war chest.
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| Quote faxcar="faxcar"Genuine question, do you know how will it work out for Town and the Shay with the council seemingly set on getting rid because of the well publicised costs and financial issues if FC are the only ones down there, are there any plans in place?'"
Its impossible to say/know. My main concern, if Fax cease to exist, is that David Bosomworth decides to bid for the ownership of the Shay. Hes kept his powder dry ever since CMBC stated they were looking to dipose of the stadium. But I remain against any private ownership of the stadium.
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| Quote Brew="Brew"Does the Piece Hall put us on the map? Recently a Mastermind contestant was asked "In what West Yorkshire town is the Grade 1 Listed Piece Hall..." (There was some further part to the question about its past use or something). Her answer was "Leeds" - The PH is well known in the area, but further away few people know about it, many people see the photos on facebook and refuse to believe it's even in the UK!
As for Fax, I'm wary that any fundraising monies will be handed over and poured into a black hole. Only got to go back 10 years or so when Bradford raised half a million quite quickly, handed it over, and the business still got wound up. A third party (supporters trust perhaps?) should be holding onto the money until people know how it is going to be spent.
No one bar a couple of people know the full extent of the debts, how much money is needed to get to the end of September, Then October, then through the winter with limited income. Some transparency would be nice here.'"
The point about money going into a black hole is a good one. From bitter personal experience.
Bear in mind that a supporters trust run club requires an awful lot of commitment from volunteers that know what they're doing and have time to commit. That's a very big ask.
On PH it's got a lot more famous since they started doing gigs. Stuart Maconie loves it and it gets a good mention in his new book.
Fax have the potential to be a decent force in SL, they just need a Ken Davy, like plenty of other clubs.
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| The original away shirt sponsor was one of those that went bust I believe, some shirts now have the later Ticket Pass Logo on with others blacked taped out that haven't been changed.
On the PH isn't it being being run by a trust independently of the council which is probably why it's doing okay?
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