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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"I would agree that we are light years away from challenging for promotion, Toulouse and Fev look a cut above the rest. When it comes to budget, outside of York and London I would imagine we have spent more than the rest or at least up there with Bradford and Widnes. Personlly I don't think we are getting performances that befit that sort of spend though. Bradford fair enough its a close defeat but I think we played poorly for a lot of the game but Toulouse and Oldham today I think both performances are unacceptable. The players dont look d and as a fan Im to the point anyway where Im a little non plussed deciding to spend more time being involved with the amateur game.'"
Been there.... 16 years ago in the third teir.
But enough of fev already.
Who do you see as the coach that will bring you what you want? Who will get you to play off footy?
I'm not sharing your views on recruitment. Other fax fans I know have concerns about your half backs. They do look very pedestrian and unable to create the openings for able backs to feed off.
I really don't share the view that another coach will be the saviour. Just like all the previous coaches in recent history.
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| I think GFB makes a very valid point about a lack of leadership - whatever people think about Grix I'm pretty certain players are not sticking to what he's coached during the week. In previous years we've been lucky that in Murrell and Kaye and even Tyrer we had players that not only led by example but who had the force of personality to demand levels of performance from the team. Now when things start going wrong no-one seems to take responsibilty - this was painfully obvious today when everyone seemed to be looking to someone else to take a lead. Brandon Moore is a great player at this level but not s captain - I said at the time I would have given it Fairbank. Wouldn't solve everything but would certainly help Grix if he had someone to help implemant his gameplan
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| Quote Ilkley Fax="Ilkley Fax"I think GFB makes a very valid point about a lack of leadership - whatever people think about Grix I'm pretty certain players are not sticking to what he's coached during the week. In previous years we've been lucky that in Murrell and Kaye and even Tyrer we had players that not only led by example but who had the force of personality to demand levels of performance from the team. Now when things start going wrong no-one seems to take responsibilty - this was painfully obvious today when everyone seemed to be looking to someone else to take a lead. Brandon Moore is a great player at this level but not s captain - I said at the time I would have given it Fairbank. Wouldn't solve everything but would certainly help Grix if he had someone to help implemant his gameplan'"
A valid observation there.
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| Everyone has to start somewhere but I was concerned when SG got the job simply because off his lack of experience.
Every coach sees his side have a dip in form from time to time and usually knows how to turn it around from experience.
Not only with SG but there is no one on the coaching staff who has been there and done it when things go bad.
I wonder who SG can turn to for advice because if there isn’t anyone he’s in a real pressure spot at the moment with everyone from club directors, players and supporters all looking at him for what to do next.
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| I have kept most of my thoughts to myself recently, as being 8000 miles away, with a sporadic information highway to be able to get accurate information, however:
When I saw the squad that has been assembled I was quite excited that Fax had finally got a real shout at being there or a-bouts the fop of the pile end of season.
As for Mr. Grix, I had a slight concern about his credentials to be coach, especially as there were experienced others out of jobs at the time, however not being privy to the reasons behind his appointment, just had to trust in the decision makers.
Looking at things with a fact on fact view, something is clearly wrong in the dressing room, has the coach lost the respect of the team ?
It will be said he cannot control what happens once the guys are over the line come game day.
Mr. Grix should not need to be sacked, he should walk away penniless, how many of you would receive a payout if you were inept at you job.
Who is out there to take the mantle if Fax need to find a new head coach?
I do not know the pay structure, but in my day ( many years ago and no I did not reach the professional ranks) there was a pay scale for those who did, not just a salary for turning up, but bonus for winning, tries scored, clean sheet, debits for being booked ( sin bin / report now), and almost a hanging if you got an early bath.
Would this work in today’s game? I don t know the answer to that, however I do know the 17 should refuse the pay packet, no disrespect to Oldham but...
Finally, where I reside “our league “is not available, ( even with a VPN the Great Wall is still alive and well) not sure I want it to with Fax at the present situation.
As it says in my profile, bring on the knockers!!!
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| The concerning point for me was that he couldn't get a response from them. Last week, York had lost 2 on the bounce, one to Sheffield which I am sure they thought would win; they put 60 on Swinton. We never struggled to make metres yesterday and yes, we made error after error in their 20, but we seemed unable to turn any momentum towards us. Oldham won on making fewer errors and if we were being ruthless, both teams were terrible. People don't have patience with Grix because our expectations are related to our previous history: we were a winning team over several seasons. There was nothing catastrophic to indicate that Grix had his hands tied to his back in fact when Marshall got sacked, we was two-points of the playoffs. The evidence was there that season, won first 5 out of 6 and then 2 of the last 12. I think people even forget last year, although only 4 games, that was his squad and apart from one game against York, we were average a best. To make the playoffs, you'rere looking to win anything from 55%-65% of your games. We, therefore, need to win anything from 11 - 15 of our last 18 games. For me, we don't look like we are going to achieve that.
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| Quote SingaporeFax="SingaporeFax"The concerning point for me was that he couldn't get a response from them. Last week, York had lost 2 on the bounce, one to Sheffield which I am sure they thought would win; they put 60 on Swinton. We never struggled to make metres yesterday and yes, we made error after error in their 20, but we seemed unable to turn any momentum towards us. Oldham won on making fewer errors and if we were being ruthless, both teams were terrible. People don't have patience with Grix because our expectations are related to our previous history: we were a winning team over several seasons. There was nothing catastrophic to indicate that Grix had his hands tied to his back in fact when Marshall got sacked, we was two-points of the playoffs. The evidence was there that season, won first 5 out of 6 and then 2 of the last 12. I think people even forget last year, although only 4 games, that was his squad and apart from one game against York, we were average a best. To make the playoffs, you'rere looking to win anything from 55%-65% of your games. We, therefore, need to win anything from 11 - 15 of our last 18 games. For me, we don't look like we are going to achieve that.'"
Spot on literally no response to last weeks drubbing. As you say about the standard on show, it looked like two teams of relegation standard playing each other.
Good players do not always make good coaches and good coaches were not always good players. We seem to be in the habit of testing our ex players to see if that is true. Next time let other teams test and go for someone with actual coaching experience of leading a team.
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"Spot on literally no response to last weeks drubbing. As you say about the standard on show, it looked like two teams of relegation standard playing each other.
Good players do not always make good coaches and good coaches were not always good players. We seem to be in the habit of testing our ex players to see if that is true. Next time let other teams test and go for someone with actual coaching experience of leading a team.'"
Spot on.
Just reviewing all the games Grix has been in charge of (sad I know); apart from the start, winning 5 of the first six, we've won 5 of the last 24 competitive games. We are a losing club, with clearly losing habits. I don't think you turn that around quickly. It's easier to see a trajectory if we were underperforming beforehand under Marshall but we weren't. We are not marginally but SIGNIFICANTLY worse under Grix right now.
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| The real problem was never Harrison Calland Ball Anderson Marshall or Grix ,although all had rectifiable faults all had positives as well . It's about working with people .not destroying them , when you sit down this week BOD you will see the real problem straight in front of you .
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"Spot on literally no response to last weeks drubbing. As you say about the standard on show, it looked like two teams of relegation standard playing each other.
Good players do not always make good coaches and good coaches were not always good players. We seem to be in the habit of testing our ex players to see if that is true. Next time let other teams test and go for someone with actual coaching experience of leading a team.'"
It's called the cheap option. 
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| Quote Hudd-Shay="Hudd-Shay"It's called the cheap option.
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Indeed Pete, it is.
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