maybe im wrong but i swear they had crowds less than 2k 2 year before they started to build momentum for promotion

i dont disagree with anything u say i just think the biggest thing is simply to be given a chance and build from there.
one thing you need is an investor, something i think howard posner promised he could get the club but the only thing holding them back was super league status a bit like the new bulls club have been given and now allowed to build

As I said, a Dormant fan base waiting to be in a position to compete with another local club, in Hull you are either red or black and white and it is that historical rivalry that gave Rovers the initial boost, along with a few million from Mr Hudgell

i guess what im saying is i feel us as a club can do that, build crowds with results as they did but only with promotion and now people have lost faith/interest in the game due to whats been happening. in fact my interest is now minimal, is it to do with results? obviously not as we do ok but i had more interest when we were crap but if we could have a run at it at the end of the season it kept hope and interest alive and we neally did it after neally being down to nl2 to going to cas in the semi final the following season is what its all about and gets people to the games.
i 1st realised how this is so wrong the second we won the grand final against fev in extra time with a drop goal, that should of been the best match feeling since our cup victory in 87 but i felt nothing really comparing it with results against say bradford and leeds beating them at the shay and away, i guess i just suddenly felt robbed of what we should of really earned that day and it really sunk in that this isnt what its about and walked away happy we beat fev in the final and won the best thing we could but its just not enough. and this is why we cant gain fans. and what i just said answers the question u raised on why we support the clubs we do and why we started going, to feel great on a day we win a game and right now that doesnt happen to its full potential.

An ' investor', you mean a rich idiot? , this ' Investor ' , is he going to get his money back? ,how much do the fans of his club ( except it isnt his club, its yours ) expect him to throw away ?

' Be given the chance and build from there ' , except we both know that wont happen, unless your rich idiot is really rich and very idiotic, and there are people like that growing on trees

The new Bulls will be back in trouble again in a few years, when their rich idiot realises how stupid he actually is

So to conclude, you want somebody else to finance your playing squad while subsidising your ticket prices in the vain hope that 1,000 s of ex fans will come flooding back to watch you get battered on a regular basis, not a cat in hells chance

i hope you dont take this wrong but i feel your ideas of how to build are based on a club thats always been in the shadow of wigan with no hope to build any other way but the ways u suggest. but my oppinion on fax and how we can get back is because we have been the biggest club in yorkshire many times and have the fan base there waiting as u suggested hull kr was and i feel given a fair craack of the whip we will and then build with investment. but getting that investment and building from where we are and knowing we are being held back just wont happen

i mean invest on ways to make profit as u suggested our cousens do but they wont come until we can make money as u just said and that will only happen being on top with interested fans
please dont put word in my mouth lol
i was only saying that as a previous director had said it but they wont put money in until the club is given a fair chance in sl so they arent throwing their money away again as u just said

No offense taken

So you agree, the investement wont happen, what level of investement do you suggest is needed even if you had SL as a target/prize? 500 K? , 1 million? , 2,3,4 maybe the Ken Davy level? , has the 10 million he has tipped in worked?

But as you say, it wont happen, so your alternative is what?

So not ' invest ' in the playing squad, so in what exactly?