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After last night's game, I felt the need to come and have a vent, not only about the Fev game, but about the season in general.

This year has been the best season I have ever seen. It has been dramatic, entertaining and we have been winning, something which is very nice to see after years of disappointment.

However, IMO there seems to be an air of arrogance creeping into the club and it's fans. At 18-0 last night, the majority of the South Stand are chanting "easy easy easy" after what was a very well worked try. However, take your minds back 4 years, and how annoyed we were when teams like Castleford were chanting this? I for one thought "arrogant bar stewards!"

We have a head coach who has publically come out and said we are the best team in the league, we have an MP who has said we should be in SL (ok, nothing to do with the club but other fans won't know this) and supporters who are taking any opportunity they have to chant at the opposition how good we are, and how rubbish they are. It's only a few years ago we had the buckets out to try and save our club, and now we appear to have a superiorty complex over those fans that saved us! Why?!

Rumours are also circulating about the behaviour of individuals in Blackpool and Toulouse, which does not put out a very positive image of the club and IMO confirms the arrogant attitude that we are better than everyone else.

Yes, I am soooo happy we are top of the league, I have waited 24 years to see my team being successful, but having been through the cr@p, I and I'm sure others will agree, do not want to come across as being arrogant like Bradford and Leeds were a few years ago.

There is no need for anyone in our league to be like this, but unfortunately success will breed arrogance. I just hope we can stamp it out on the terraces and to a certain extent on the pitch.


Last night, Halifax completely dominated the first half in every area. However we were only 18-0 up. In the second half, we looked as though the game had been won, and it was a matter of trying to defend a lead. Throughout the entire game, there was no attempt to try and drag players into touch, and from what I saw, the passion wasn't there which has been evident in the "big" games agains Widnes and Cas this year.

Every team that plays us this year will raise their game. That is a fact, we are top of the league. Remember back to when we were in SL and which games we looked forward to the most - the big 4. So whatever we see on Sky, read in the papers about how different teams are playing, its a whole different ball game when they play us.

Last night, and up at Gateshead, we didn't look interested and were beaten by the team that wanted it the most, which in the position we are in at the momment, shouldn't be the case.

It was a massive game last night, and yet again we choked on the occasion. Ok, it wasn't a cup semi-final, or a game against 2nd in the league to decide who goes top, but a win last night would have opened up a nice gap between us and Barrow. Also, infront of 2400, would have ensured a big crowd for our next home game.

We seem to lack that killer instinct which enables us to put a team to bed, Whitehaven in the NRC semi's a few years ago, Widnes in the play-offs, Widnes in the NRC, Whitehaven in the play-offs and Featherstone last night.

If we are going to win this league, which we are capable of doing, we need to start playing smart rugby at critical times. Going for 2 points when there is 15 minutes to go was one of the worst tactical decisions I have seen in a very long time. Killer instinct, more like pussy cats - did Fev need any more motivation to believe they could beat us when we took that option?! A stupid penalty 7 yards from our own line by one of our most experienced players in the last minute of the game?! COMPOSURE!

I hope we learn from this game, that it's not over until the whistle blows, not when we decide to stop playing. From our experience, we should know that no lead is big enough to defend.

Featherstone deserved the victory last night, they weren't the classier side, but they played simple rugby, got in our faces and wanted it more - tactics which at the momment, will beat us every week.

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Having re-read the OP im still trying to work out why this thread is still going and the other isnt even though there is more valid points on the other. Any way i took a minute to work through the post.


Quote: ClaireFAXFAN "We have a head coach who has publically come out and said we are the best team in the league'"


Last time i looked we were. The league table dosnt lie and all he is doing is stating what all opposition coaches acknowledge.

Quote: ClaireFAXFAN "and supporters who are taking any opportunity they have to chant at the opposition how good we are, and how rubbish they are.'"


Thats sport.

Quote: ClaireFAXFAN "Rumours are also circulating about the behaviour of individuals in Blackpool and Toulouse, which does not put out a very positive image of the club and IMO confirms the arrogant attitude that we are better than everyone else.'"


Wasnt individuals it was just about all. I say let them get smashed unless it effects thier performace which on Fridays performance at the end it suggested that it did. They are employed by the club and if off field activities are affecting on field performances then it becomes a problem. I feel playing with 16 players was more of a contributing factor though.
But bagging the players on here should see this thread locked apparently.

Quote: ClaireFAXFAN "Yes, I am soooo happy we are top of the league, I have waited 24 years to see my team being successful, but having been through the cr@p, I and I'm sure others will agree, do not want to come across as being arrogant like Bradford and Leeds were a few years ago.'"


Why were/are the above teams disliked you have to ask yourself. Its because they are succesful. Its a British thing so im not sure being disliked is such a bad thing.

Quote: ClaireFAXFAN "There is no need for anyone in our league to be like this, but unfortunately success will breed arrogance. I just hope we can stamp it out on the terraces and to a certain extent on the pitch.'"


Are our players playing with arrogance? Id say confidence but lets try to nip that in the bud straight away.

Quote: ClaireFAXFAN "Throughout the entire game, there was no attempt to try and drag players into touch'"


No one attempted a torpedo kick either.icon_rolleyes.gif


icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif About sums the original post up.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Having re-read the OP im still trying to work out why this thread is still going and the other isnt even though there is more valid points on the other. Any way i took a minute to work through the post.




Last time i looked we were. The league table dosnt lie and all he is doing is stating what all opposition coaches acknowledge.



Thats sport.



Wasnt individuals it was just about all. I say let them get smashed unless it effects thier performace which on Fridays performance at the end it suggested that it did. They are employed by the club and if off field activities are affecting on field performances then it becomes a problem. I feel playing with 16 players was more of a contributing factor though.
But bagging the players on here should see this thread locked apparently.



Why were/are the above teams disliked you have to ask yourself. Its because they are succesful. Its a British thing so im not sure being disliked is such a bad thing.



Are our players playing with arrogance? Id say confidence but lets try to nip that in the bud straight away.



No one attempted a torpedo kick either.
Great Post. Completely agree. Not gonna add anymore, you said it all. LOCK THIS THREAD

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Its Taken 49 posts for someone to talk sence, but thank you greg florimos boots!!

The only slight dissagreement is your responce to "ClaireFAXFAN wrote: We seem to lack that killer instinct which enables us to put a team to bed, Whitehaven in the NRC semi's a few years ago, Widnes in the play-offs, Widnes in the NRC, Whitehaven in the play-offs and Featherstone last night."

Its ok saying that but think of all the late comebacks we've made againgst teams that should have put us to bed, Leigh and dewsbury away from last year immediately spring to mind. Its an 80 minute game and rather than attempting to "put a side to bed" once we get into position we should focus on maintaining the performance that has got us into this position in the 1st place and take each minute as it comes

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i think this thread, the drinking one, blaming the ref, crying and calling each other names etc firstly undermines how well fev played, they won because they were better; and secondly shows how high emotions are running after such a tense game that we lost this time. Isn't that what sport is all about. Its strange, but the feeling of utter despair i felt friday night when lee scored in the last minute sits better with me than joyful apathy i felt when beating batley 72 0. I'd take the former over the latter 9 times out of 10.

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