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Well it truly seems to be the year of the underdog !

Against all the odds and with a little help from the FBI, we have THE most volotile world leader in modern times.
I'm going off to start building a nuclear bunker !

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I'm going off to start building a nuclear bunker !'"


Imo i think Hillary would have been a bigger worry in that regards. Donald may not turn out to be the white knight the average american man is hoping he will be, be he sure as hell scares me a lot less than her on the world stage.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Well it truly seems to be the year of the underdog !

Against all the odds and with a little help from the FBI, we have THE most volotile world leader in modern times.
I'm going off to start building a nuclear bunker !'"


Apparently, the Canadian immigration website crashed as this news started to emerge.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Imo i think Hillary would have been a bigger worry in that regards. Donald may not turn out to be the white knight the average american man is hoping he will be, be he sure as hell scares me a lot less than her on the world stage.'"


I understand what you mean although Trump seems like the kind of bloke that will want to "prove" himself and he may not be able to resist the chance to "show the world" that he's in charge.
It's certainly livened thing up and it's clear that, both in the US and over here, people generally have had enough of "the establishment".
All of this appears to have come out of the banking crash of a few years ago, which was never really dealt with and the folk at the bottom of the pile ended up being squeezed because of the actions of a few greedy bankers.

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I'm not surprised in the slightest.

The similarities to our own referendum scenario are quite apparent, especially regarding him rallying the disaffected to the cause.

Interesting times ahead, my main concern is that he's going to allow the Americans to continue polluting the hell out of the planet.

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Good news for Russia

Bad news for Mexico nand Canada

Bad news for the Chinese economy but good news for their military


Bad news for western free marketeers but possibly good news for the EU as people will feel safer for a united Europe at the time of political uncertainty.

Bad news for the uk as America will become a lot more isolationist.

That's assuming Trump is not assassinated !!!

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Quote: wrencat1873 "All of this appears to have come out of the banking crash of a few years ago, which was never really dealt with and the folk at the bottom of the pile ended up being squeezed because of the actions of a few greedy bankers.'"


Absolutely, and anyone who didn't see this or Brexit coming must have either been walking round with their eyes shut for the past 8 years or profited hugely in the fallout.

Trump's victory, just like Brexit, is the result of protest voting against capitalism and globalisation where many people feel the much spouted economy isn't working for, and more recently, isn't intended to work for them. It's not really a vote [ifor[/i Trump but a vote against Clinton and a big two fingers up to her in the process.

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To quote Major Clipton from BOTRK "Madness! Madness!"[/i

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Quote: King Street Cat "Trump's victory, just like Brexit, is the result of protest voting against capitalism and globalisation where many people feel the much spouted economy isn't working for, and more recently, isn't intended to work for them.'"


So to demonstrate their ire at the capitalist masters of the universe who don't have their best interests at heart, they vote for a tax-dodging billionaire who also happens to be a racist, misogynistic sex offender who is happy to mock disabled people in the style of an 11 year old boy? It beggars belief.

I expect a Farage style round of speeches very soon, backpedalling on his promises to build a wall, ban Muslims from the US and send Hillary to jail.

The world is proving in 2016 that democracy is not always a good thing; a benevolent dictatorship would probably be a better arrangement.

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Quote: King Street Cat "
Trump's victory, just like Brexit, is the result of protest voting against capitalism and globalisation where many people feel the much spouted economy isn't working for, and more recently, isn't intended to work for them. It's not really a vote [ifor[/i Trump but a vote against Clinton and a big two fingers up to her in the process.'"


Or put another way, if one has enough money and the right connections and one can lie, cheat, if necessary scream sexist and racist messages and most importantly, shout the loudest for longest [itelling people what they want to hear[/i, it really is possible to provoke mass numbers of people into complete and total stupidity.

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After the general election & Brexit I wanted to leave England, now I want to quit the planet.

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Quote: bren2k "So to demonstrate their ire at the capitalist masters of the universe who don't have their best interests at heart, they vote for a tax-dodging billionaire who also happens to be a racist, misogynistic sex offender who is happy to mock disabled people in the style of an 11 year old boy? It beggars belief.'"


It doesn't say much for Clinton does it?!

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Where next, France, Holland, Germany........EU?? the people are speaking.

Maybe people don't want borders to be broken down, maybe they like what they had in the past.

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Short memories some people or on the other hand those with memories of 1939-45 aren't around anymore.

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Quote: Bullseye "Short memories some people or on the other hand those with memories of 1939-45 aren't around anymore.'"


Indeed.
The saying about keeping friends close and enemies closer seems to have no relevance.
We are shrinking back into our little island and expecting to be listened to by the rest of the world.
Our voice may not have had huge significance within the EU but, we were one on the larger players.
Now, we have given that voice up and we will still have to dance to their tune and obey their rules and get zero input.

Politicians used to get grief and ridicule if they changed their minds or broke promises but, we seem to have entered a new era, where you can say whatever comes into your head, without consequence.

Talk about be careful what you wish for ?

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