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hull.tab.co.uk/2013/11/19/huu-bans-the-sun/

My university union has decided, through a vote, to ban the Sun from being sold on campus. I didn't know about it until a facebook page (a comical page run by a Hull student, nothing to do with anything official) posted it earlier today, probably because as a first year I don't mix with any of the union lot and they don't seem to care about announcing anything past their inner circles and just wait for it to filter out by word of mouth.

Personally, I wouldn't wipe my booty with the sun, but I do not see any reason to ban it, especially given that the union shop sells every major rag and all the glossy gossip mags which are full of just as much derogatory vitriol (you'll see in the link above a big deal has been made about the page 3 girls and how it's demeaning to women, which I agree with to an extent but like I said, don't ban it).

The point I'm trying to make is that the university is a place full of adults (in a legal sense) who can make up their own minds about what they want to read, or not read. And no one should have the power to tell them they can't read a certain paper over another.

Any thoughts?
hull.tab.co.uk/2013/11/19/huu-bans-the-sun/

My university union has decided, through a vote, to ban the Sun from being sold on campus. I didn't know about it until a facebook page (a comical page run by a Hull student, nothing to do with anything official) posted it earlier today, probably because as a first year I don't mix with any of the union lot and they don't seem to care about announcing anything past their inner circles and just wait for it to filter out by word of mouth.

Personally, I wouldn't wipe my booty with the sun, but I do not see any reason to ban it, especially given that the union shop sells every major rag and all the glossy gossip mags which are full of just as much derogatory vitriol (you'll see in the link above a big deal has been made about the page 3 girls and how it's demeaning to women, which I agree with to an extent but like I said, don't ban it).

The point I'm trying to make is that the university is a place full of adults (in a legal sense) who can make up their own minds about what they want to read, or not read. And no one should have the power to tell them they can't read a certain paper over another.

Any thoughts?


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It's a bonkers move and the people who did it should try to grow up.

And that's coming from, like you, someone who has no liking for the rag in question or for Murdoch.

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The same reaction on local radio today from plans by Leeds Carnegie SU to do the same following a similar stunt from Bradford SU (or was it Huddersfield).

Strange because when ah wor nobbut a lad all the talk in the Union bar (drank there but never privileged to be a proper student, just one on a knock-off card) was for free speech and how when we were all grown up things would be different, seems we were wrong.

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Quote: the cal train "Any thoughts?'"

Yup. If this is the daftest thing your SU does during your time there you can officially consider yourself lucky. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Kosh "Yup. If this is the daftest thing your SU does during your time there you can officially consider yourself lucky. Oh I'm looking forward to seeing what they can pull out the bag next to make the union a 'safe place' for everyone. It's almost exciting.

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Quote: the cal train "hull.tab.co.uk/2013/11/19/huu-bans-the-sun/

My university union has decided, through a vote, to ban the Sun from being sold on campus.

Any thoughts?'"


Some people define "functional literacy" as the ability to read The Sun. So, perhaps the reason for its sale being stopped at you Union is due to lack of demand?

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My concerns are that tomorrows highly educated professionals would want to read it

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Quote: rover49 "My concerns are that tomorrows highly educated professionals would want to read it'"

don't worry, most wouldn't, but we do have a rather large sports department.

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Quote: rover49 "My concerns are that tomorrows highly educated professionals would want to read it'"


They may be academically more talented but that doesn't mean your average student unionista knows what the fook the time of day is.
I've come into contact with some of them and many aren't particularly bright.
Anyway, let the middle classes read Jezza Clarkson.
They enjoy and and deserve him.

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2, David Camoron - Eton/Oxford University
3, Aneurin Bevan - Mineworks aged 13
4, Gideon Osborne - St Magdalens/Oxford University

Q, Name me the two intellectual pygmies?

Nota bene :- Hull twinned with Liverpool and Freetown Sierra Leone.
Ban the fooking rag.

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Back in the day a suitable student response to this would be to wallpaper the Dean's office with Page 3 and put a pair of fake breasts on the statue of the founder.

Now students just moan about it on forums.

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Love free speech unless it upsets some militant fringe of nutters, then it has to be banned. Surely there are enough militant fringe nutters that hold views against everything as a collective so we can ban everything?

Down with free thinking, free speech and reasonable reasoned people who just want to be in life.

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Quote: the cal train "hull.tab.co.uk/2013/11/19/huu-bans-the-sun/

My university union has decided, through a vote, to ban the Sun from being sold on campus. I didn't know about it until a facebook page (a comical page run by a Hull student, nothing to do with anything official) posted it earlier today, probably because as a first year I don't mix with any of the union lot and they don't seem to care about announcing anything past their inner circles and just wait for it to filter out by word of mouth.

Personally, I wouldn't wipe my booty with the sun, but I do not see any reason to ban it, especially given that the union shop sells every major rag and all the glossy gossip mags which are full of just as much derogatory vitriol (you'll see in the link above a big deal has been made about the page 3 girls and how it's demeaning to women, which I agree with to an extent but like I said, don't ban it).

The point I'm trying to make is that the university is a place full of adults (in a legal sense) who can make up their own minds about what they want to read, or not read. And no one should have the power to tell them they can't read a certain paper over another.

Any thoughts?'"


Bit emotive to use "censorship" and "ban" and who is actually telling students what they can and can't read?

Not to include a certain newspaper in their offering is surely up to them, isn't it??

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The Sun.....I could understand if it was the Daily Mail that had been banned!

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Quote: Ovavoo "Bit emotive to use "censorship" and "ban" and who is actually telling students what they can and can't read?

Not to include a certain newspaper in their offering is surely up to them, isn't it??'"


I agree I don't see what has actually been censored here.

The university union shops are owned by the university union, and it seems they have had a vote and decided they won't stock the Sun. Private businesses should always be free to decide what they do and don't sell.

Other shops will make the decision to sell the Sun and I am sure any Hull students that want to read the Sun can easily find an alternative place to buy it.

Censorship would be Hull university saying you are not allowed to read the Sun on campus and we will take disciplinary measures against you if you are found with it.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "... Private businesses should always be free to decide what they do and don't sell...'"


I rather like the French system where, if a business chooses to sell one daily newspaper, it has to sell the rest too. Rather good from a democratic point of view.

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Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
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SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
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SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
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