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We had a visit from a guy working for company called A Shade Greener, asking if we would be interested in having solar panels fitted for free. Basically, A Shade Greener fit & maintain the panels for the next 25 years & we get to use the electricity which they generate, any surplus they sell on to the NG.
I've googled the company & can't see or find anything bad or dodgy against them or the scheme itself, however I'm always cautious when it comes to people knocking on my door offering me things.
Has anyone had any experience of this company or these kind of schemes?

This is their site, rlhttp://ashadegreener.co.uk/rl

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I know someone who has had them fitted by this company but haven't heard anything negative - I'll be seeing him on Thursday so I'll ask.

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Have a word with your building society, assuming you still have a mortgage, I heard of a couple who had PV panels fitted (PV generate electricity, solar panels heat water) and when their fixed rate mortgage was coming to an end, struggled to find another building society to lend to them. They had to remain with their original lenders, who then charged them a premium

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Thanks JC.

I did wonder about that Cod'ead, thanks. I think I'll check with our home insurers too.

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I believe the idea is that they fit and own the panels and they get to sell the electricity that you don't use.
The leccy you do use from it is free, so reduces your bill.
But as it is only produced during the day, unless you are at home a lot, you wouldn't make much out of it.

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Look into funding them yourself. That way you get to sell the electricity back to the national grid in addition to using it. There are some reputable installers around who don't partake in the kind of scheme you're describing. As a ball park a 4kw system will probably cost 7-9K. Even with the reduced feed in tariffs (if the government got their way) they still look like good value. Oh and bear in mind Codead's comments about the mortgage - although its less likely to apply if you're self funding.

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Quote: Little Robin Redhead "We had a visit from a guy working for company called A Shade Greener, asking if we would be interested in having solar panels fitted for free. Basically, A Shade Greener fit & maintain the panels for the next 25 years & we get to use the electricity which they generate, any surplus they sell on to the NG.
I've googled the company & can't see or find anything bad or dodgy against them or the scheme itself, however I'm always cautious when it comes to people knocking on my door offering me things.
Has anyone had any experience of this company or these kind of schemes?

This is their site, rlhttp://ashadegreener.co.uk/rl'"


Fund the project yourself if you can, that way you get the money from the excess energy that you sell back to the Grid, but you also get the benefit of the Feed in Tariff payment from the Government, which basically gives you cash just for generating solar power regardless of whether you use it or not. Companies like this make their money from the Feed in Tariff, rather than the generated capacity.

For about £5k you get a guaranteed payment for 25 years, rather than the company that is borrowing your roof to do the same.

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Buying our own isn't an option at the moment, we are saving for a deposit on a new place & was hoping to rent this one out.
It's just one of those situations when you think, "should I? Or Shouldn't I?" icon_biggrin.gif

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In that case I'd wait till you're in a better position. If you go with this company they'll get the money from selling back to the grid and your tenants will be getting the free electricity they generate.

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I've done a few surveys at A Shade Greener properties & they seem pretty good. The tarriff has just fallen & will probably fall again in the future so I'd be wary about buying them as an investment. But renting out one of your roof pitches in exchange for free electricity with no capital outlay doesn't seem much of a risk imo.

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Except as cod'ead alludes to, you need to find out the situation if you sell your house - the panels aren't yours to sell. Will the contract roll over to the next householder (who may wish to buy and install their own panels?), can the panel owner be forced to remove them (etc etc)?

Solar panels are a cr*p way to generate power, even in Queensland, where their efficiency is as low as 20% - largely due to the requirement for the sun to hit them at a precise angle, let alone any issues with being overcast.

Its only by distorting the market above and beyond carbon pricing that any such systems make any kind of economic sense. Like all renewables, when combined with the requirement for backup power from fossil fuels (less efficient fossil fuel-powereed plant than if the panels weren't there) they also don't actually help the environment. Add to that the very high capital cost/kw and the current generation of solar panels are 'feel good' only.

Still, if you get them free and save a few quid every year and don't intend to move house then why not?

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Except as cod'ead alludes to, you need to find out the situation if you sell your house - the panels aren't yours to sell. Will the contract roll over to the next householder (who may wish to buy and install their own panels?), can the panel owner be forced to remove them (etc etc)?'"


The panels stay with the house so the new owner has to take on the agreement. If you want the panels removed before the end of the 25 years then you can request this but there is obviously a fee attached to doing so. At the end of the 25 years you can either ask the company to take them down (at no cost since the agreement has ended) or they will just leave the panels and equipment in place (but then of course the maintenance, repair and any liabilities transfer to the home owner).

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Some decent details here rlhttp://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p

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A simple solution to saving money on electricity bills would be to turn off lights when not in use and turn off all sockets at bedtime.

But solar panels look bloody awful and unsightly on houses.Warrington council have done a lot in the last 12 months, and christ they look stomach churning. I should imagine that home-owners that have solar panels, will lose value on their homes.

But remember folks, you don't get owt for nowt.

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Quote: Live Wired "A simple solution to saving money on electricity bills would be to turn off lights when not in use and turn off all sockets at bedtime.

But solar panels look bloody awful and unsightly on houses.Warrington council have done a lot in the last 12 months, and christ they look stomach churning. I should imagine that home-owners that have solar panels, will lose value on their homes.
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Well you don't have to turn off the ones that aren't in use of course, and don't turn off the one that your alarm clock is plugged into. icon_wink.gif

I have a architect friend who designs some very expensive private villas on the more exclusive parts of The Algarve and I asked him a few months ago about solar power and why hardly any of the villas on the Vale do Lobo seem to have any form of solar panel, his reply was that none of the properties that he designs will ever have them as they look bloody awful and they are too inefficient to justify to his clients (not that his clients ever need to worry about their 'leccy bills).

I assumed he's done the research that an architect would be expected to do so for the time being I'm sticking with his opinion.

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 Fri 30th Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
09:00
Canterbury
v
Manly
11:00
Penrith
v
Souths
       Championship 2024-R24
19:30
Bradford
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Hull KR
v
Salford
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
 Sat 31st Aug
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
06:00
Parramatta
v
St.George
08:30
Dolphins
v
Brisbane
10:35
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
       League One 2024-R22
14:00
Midlands
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
       Championship 2024-R24
17:00
Toulouse
v
Sheffield
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
20:00
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 1st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R26
05:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
07:05
Sydney
v
Canberra
     Womens Super League 2024-R12
12:00
LeedsW
v
York V
12:00
WiganW
v
Wire W
14:00
Hudds W
v
St.HelensW
       League One 2024-R22
14:30
Crusaders
v
Cornwall
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R24
15:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
15:00
LondonB
v
Leeds
       Championship 2024-R24
15:00
Batley
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
Halifax
15:00
Featherstone
v
Barrow
15:00
Swinton
v
Wakefield
15:00
Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
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Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
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11:00
Souths
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Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
Wire W
v
St.HelensW
17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
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v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
St.George
v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
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v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
Manly
v
Cronulla
07:05
Newcastle
v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
Huddersfield
v
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
14:00
FeatherstoneW
v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
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v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov 2024
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
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Matches on TV
Fri 2nd Aug
SL
20:00
Warrington-Hull KR
Sat 3rd Aug
SL
15:00
Hull FC-St.Helens
SL
17:30
Salford-Leeds
Sun 4th Aug
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LondonB-Catalans
Thu 8th Aug
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Sun 11th Aug
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LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
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Wigan-St.Helens
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14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
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15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
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Fri 23rd Aug
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20:00
Castleford-Warrington
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20:00
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St.Helens-Hull KR
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Fri 2nd Aug
NRL
LIVE
NZ Warriors20-30Parramatta
Thu 1st Aug
SL 20 Castleford10-20Leigh
SL 20 Wigan26-14Huddersfield
NRL 22 Wests30-48NQL Cowboys
Sun 28th Jul
NRL 21 St.George10-46Penrith
NRL 21 Dolphins14-21Gold Coast
NRL 21 Canberra32-12Souths
CH 19 Batley16-22Halifax
CH 19 Doncaster37-30Barrow
CH 19 Sheffield78-24Whitehaven
CH 19 Wakefield46-18Featherstone
CH 19 Widnes25-6Bradford
CH 19 York34-4Swinton
L1 17 Newcastle34-44Cornwall
L1 17 Hunslet24-32Workington
L1 17 Keighley36-12Midlands
L1 17 Rochdale10-14Oldham
Sat 27th Jul
SL 19 Salford30-22Castleford
SL 19 Catalans24-16Hull FC
NRL 21 Brisbane16-41Canterbury
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 19 498 245 253 28
Hull KR 19 481 255 226 28
Catalans 19 366 274 92 24
Salford 19 355 366 -11 24
St.Helens 19 455 256 199 22
 
Leeds 19 355 342 13 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 19 268 566 -298 6
LondonB 19 198 725 -527 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 17 584 206 378 32
Sheffield 17 488 283 205 24
Toulouse 16 468 220 248 23
Widnes 17 410 307 103 21
Bradford 17 397 297 100 21
Doncaster 17 318 410 -92 17
 
York 18 428 345 83 16
Featherstone 17 440 359 81 16
Batley 17 284 366 -82 16
Swinton 17 342 422 -80 12
Halifax 17 318 459 -141 12
Barrow 16 255 458 -203 12
Whitehaven 17 336 556 -220 12
Dewsbury 18 224 560 -336 2
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