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| Why would anyone want to worship a god that created a worm that lives by eating the eyes of children?
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| Erm, because he is the God which grants grace and everlasting life to those who place their trust in him?
The burrowing of a worm into an eyeball pales into nothingness when one considers the nature of an infinite paradise.
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1977_1349889235.jpg "You are working for Satan." [i:2886spie]Kirkstaller[/i:2886spie]
"Dare to know!" [i:2886spie]Immanuel Kant[/i:2886spie]
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Erm, because he is the God which grants grace and everlasting life to those who place their trust in him?
The burrowing of a worm into an eyeball pales into nothingness when one considers the nature of an infinite paradise.'"
So, you're apologist for rape, child abuse, murder – and now for the suffering of innocent children.
What's pitiful is how much you've put your brain into lockdown and allowed yourself to be utterly brainwashed into accepting the complete inversion of basic morality.
Thus you are every bit as lacking in morality as those people who flew planes into the Twin Towers. And, just like them, you can't even see it.
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| Quote: Mintball "So, you're apologist for rape, child abuse, murder – and now for the suffering of innocent children.
What's pitiful is how much you've put your brain into lockdown and allowed yourself to be utterly brainwashed into accepting the complete inversion of basic morality.
Thus you are every bit as lacking in morality as those people who flew planes into the Twin Towers. And, just like them, you can't even see it.'"
Tell me, how do you tell what is and isn't moral?
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Erm, because he is the God which grants grace and everlasting life to those who place their trust in him?
The burrowing of a worm into an eyeball pales into nothingness when one considers the nature of an infinite paradise.'"
What about those who don't place their trust in him? Or those who don't even know and have never been told he exists?
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| Why would anyone want to worship a god that creates 1 in 10,000 fetuses without a brain, causing them all to die within the womb or minutes after birth, its not only a quality control issue but hugely distressing to parents, un-necessarily distressing to parents who may be avid followers of that god and wonder what the hell they have done to upset him so.
The cop-out reply is of course that we are not to question why, yet we are told by believers that a life is created by their god at the moment of conception and furthermore that Man is not to dabble in procreation whether to prevent or create it artificially - therefore we can only conclude that their god is totally responsible for every fetus, its well being, and its successful and healthy birth.
Clearly he is not doing the job properly.
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| Quote: Him "What about those who don't place their trust in him?'"
Then eyeball parasites are the least of their worries.
Quote: Him "Or those who don't even know and have never been told he exists?'"
They will be judged according to what they know. They know about God through creation, and they should know that we fall short of his glory as we are fallible men. If they place their trust in God to forgive them then I have faith that God will treat them fairly.
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "Why would anyone want to worship a god that creates 1 in 10,000 fetuses without a brain, causing them all to die within the womb or minutes after birth, its not only a quality control issue but hugely distressing to parents, un-necessarily distressing to parents who may be avid followers of that god and wonder what the hell they have done to upset him so.'"
See my first reply
Also, please remember that death only entered the world as a result of us rebelling against God.
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| Quote: Him "What about those who don't place their trust in him?'"
Quote: Him "Then eyeball parasites are the least of their worries.'"
Is this response for real! ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Then eyeball parasites are the least of their worries.
They will be judged according to what they know. They know about God through creation, and they should know that we fall short of his glory as we are fallible men. If they place their trust in God to forgive them then I have faith that God will treat them fairly.'"
But what about those who have been told something different yet have no idea about Christianity? They aren't choosing to ignore god since they do not know he exists, they are only told about other gods. What happens to them? They might go through their entire life not knowing of the existence of the Christian God. If they don't know he exists how can they place their trust in them?
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| Quote: Him "But what about those who have been told something different yet have no idea about Christianity? They aren't choosing to ignore god since they do not know he exists, they are only told about other gods. What happens to them? They might go through their entire life not knowing of the existence of the Christian God. If they don't know he exists how can they place their trust in them?'"
If they trust in God and recognise their shortcomings, the Bible indicates that God will treat them fairly.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "If they trust in God and recognise their shortcomings, the Bible indicates that God will treat them fairly.'"
How can they trust in something they don't know exists and have never been told about?
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| Quote: Him "How can they trust in something they don't know exists and have never been told about?'"
They don't need to be told about God to know he exists.
[iFor the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "They don't need to be told about God to know he exists.
[iFor the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.
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Romans 1'"
No that's "evidence" that a god exists, not the Christian God. If they've been told from early age it was a different god and not told anything about Christianity then they won't know the Christian God exists and will naturally believe that the earth was created by the different god. So how can they place their trust in a god they don't know exists?
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| Quote: Mintball "Why would anyone want to worship a god that created a worm that lives by eating the eyes of children?'"
1. Did He? Does Genesis really mean that?
2. If He did, did He not make man with the capacity to overcome such things? Perhaps if people like you concentrated on goodness rather than sniping we'd get to overcome our ills that much more quickly? Much easier to complain and mock than be humble, decent and altruistic, hey?
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