Steam and PC gaming are great, until you want to try and run a high-end AAA title. Something like Battlefield 4 or Titanfall for example will both be available for PC but the performance can be beset by all kinds of problems if your hardware setup isn't quite right.
It's certainly more costly in the long run, but I can definitely see the advantages of PC gaming which is why I always try and have a pretty decent PC setup just in case.
FPS games in particular just don't feel right on a console imo. Once you've used a mouse & keyboard there's no going back.

Consoles are just way more accessible in general. No worrying about hardware and compatibility issues, just load the game up and play it. Why do you think Valve are trying to get PCs into the living room with their Steam Machines now?

Friend of mine was recently at a conference and had a go of the Xbox One and PS4. Said the PS4 seemed superior but it was only a brief go, not really like owning one and using it everyday.

Thinking of getting rid of both my Xbox and my PS3, just wondering what's the best thing to do with them? Anywhere giving good trade in prices for cash?

I doubt you would get a good deal trading them in on the high street - particularly at a time when their value is about to drop with the release of new machines.

Would go for a local advert in a newsagent with Christmas approaching and people on a budget.

£150 - £200 with games if in good condition.

Interesting to see the PS4 suffering from overheating issues on release. Sony came out with a stat that 0.4% of consoles will be broken at release. Kind of mysterious that they knew this figure so exactly.

Is anyone on here getting one of the new consoles on release?

Yeah my PS4 is paid for already. I haven't heard any mentions of overheating whatsoever, where have you read that?

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It doesn't seem to be widespread, just the usual teething problems you get when you rush releases of hardware.

Let us know what its like when you get it. What games do you get with it?

I think the 0.4% is probably just manufacturing error rates that can't really be avoided, shouldn't be a problem anyway.

I decided to just buy the console rather than a bundle. Game had a few packages but none of them actualy saved you any money, which in my mind just completely destroys the point of buying the items in a bundle in the first place.

For the time being I'll probably just upgrade my ps3 version of CoD and play Contrast/Resogun (both free) until something else catches my eye.

Usually am tempted to get consoles on day of release but not this time, never felt as underwhelmed about gaming as I do right now.

Rumours of fallout 4 to be released in December. Can't see it myself

Makes me laugh when games companies get all pretentious about releases. "Lets copy Apple". There aren't many games that can get away with it like that, Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty and FIFA probably the only ones who could manage it properly without it negatively affecting sales.

I never liked the game, the basic gameplay mechanics were all so awkward and clunky, same as the Elder Scrolls series.

Don't be daft...surely not. Heard rumours of an announcement, nothing more

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A completely farcial story from ... the Daily Mail !!

Ok, its been widely reported elsewhere too, but what utter nonsense.

Why would he save up all year (clearly anticipating all year that he was going to buy a XBox One) and not bother to pre-order (only needed a small deposit and balance on collection)? Why would he spend £450 on a next gen console for a 4 year old?

It's a very clever scam. 'Pay' your mate £450 for a photo, have that mate delete his new ebay account. Call the press and claim you were sold a photo of an Xbox and make several thousand pounds in fees for selling his story.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25944837 I was there, a 22 hour battle that I managed 13 hours before I collapsed at the keyboard.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25944837 I was there, a 22 hour battle that I managed 13 hours before I collapsed at the keyboard.

Got myself a PS3

Got myself a PS3

Got myself a PS3

Seems a pretty incredible game. Which side were you on? The horrible gangsters demanding protection money or the citizens of that part of the universe? How do the battles play out? Is it just like a space shooter or is there more tactical aspects? What do you do between battles? Is it purely spaceship based or do you visit planets and space stations and the like?

Good for you.

I tried the PS4 last week and apart from some nice lighting effects it felt exactly like playing a PS3 game (the game I played was Killzone).

Will wait and see what develops before I think about buying one.

Currently playing GTA5.

This generation isn't an obvious big jump.
Think about prior generations:
Master System to Megadrive era nothing big.
Megadrive to PS1 bought CD rather than cartridges and a jump.
PS1 to PS2 and XBOX gave us DVD media, big storage and widescreen display.
That to the Xbox360 and PS3 brought HD, blu-ray, built in big hard drives and a bigger focus on network connectivity.

This time around, it's really just an increase in processing power and storage. There isn't that obvious capability jump, and it will take a while to show. Particularly as most games are simply enhancements of the last generation.

I agree although for me the jump from 8-bit to 16bit was huge and thats why I paid £190 for my Megadrive with Altered Beast! and the thing is still going strong.

At the moment paying £300 + for a PS4 with no obvious benefit seems crazy.

So, was looking at the XBox One and PS4 this weekend, can't seem to make a split between them, announced today that XBox prices are coming down to match PS4, any pros/cons from people who own eith(or both)

thanks in advance

I don't own either yet and will wait until prices come down but one thing that does put me off the XBox is the way it looks in comparison to the PS4.

Surely Microsoft have people who can design something nicer? - You may not think it could have a bearing on sales but I think it does.

They're both pretty minimalist when it comes to design. Physical aesthetics of the consoles themselves would be pretty far down most people's list. I think both companies would do well to sell a customisable version like you can do with skateboards and trainers. I'd really like a matte black Xbox One with grey skulls inlaid with diamantes.