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| Quote ="Standee"according to whom? As far as I am aware we've never met?, and very few from here have met me, you may be guilty of believing what you want to believe, as opposed to having an opinion based on evidence.
Anyway, Social Housing, yes we need more, but we also need to utilise what we have better.'"
It was writ clear in a post by Hull White Star when you mentioned "the numerous people on this forum who fraudulently claim to be too ill to work".
I have a question for you, one that will only require a one word answer:
Are you, quite apart from your day job as a "housing professional", a buy to let landlord?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It was writ clear in a post by Hull White Star when you mentioned "the numerous people on this forum who fraudulently claim to be too ill to work".
I have a question for you, one that will only require a one word answer:
Are you, quite apart from your day job as a "housing professional", a buy to let landlord?'"
yes, you know I am.
but you don't know the circumstances under which I let, not what type of landlord I am.
there is no need for this to become personal, I have a lot of respect for you, maybe you could afford me a modicum of the same?
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| Quote ="Standee"yes, you know I am.
but you don't know the circumstances under which I let, not what type of landlord I am.
there is no need for this to become personal, I have a lot of respect for you, maybe you could afford me a modicum of the same?'"
Where is this personal or disrespectful?
I wanted to clarify that not only do you work as a "housing professional" but you also have a personal financial interest in the housing rental market and as such, any fluctuations in prevailing rents would affect you directly.
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| Sorry but I have one other question:
Would you rent a house to Bob Crow?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Sorry but I have one other question:
Would you rent a house to Bob Crow?'"
Yes, I would happily rent to him, but not a subsidised rental meant for someone in housing need.
it's quite simple really, Bob Crow does not NEED social housing, he is stealing it from someone more worthy. The system allows him to do it, he is not at fault, the system is.
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| So just to get this straight...
In a Standee world there are two types of rental property, the private landlord/letting agency type rent where the market sets the rates and the landlord charges as much as he/she feels they can get away with.
And the "social" level of rental housing which is purely for short term emergency housing and subject to review and withdrawal at any regular interval if the operating authority feel that the tenant is no longer in dire need.
Council and housing association accommodation presumably fall into category two ?
And it is still possible for tenants in category one to receive housing benefits to cover all or most of their private landlord rents ?
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| Quote ="Mintball"You talked of hypocrisy. I asked you for evidence. I'm still waiting.'"
Not on this thread I didn't?
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| Quote ="Him"No, that is not trickle-down economics.
They can easily sell them if they reduce the price.
Interesting which threads you're choosing to post on at the moment.'"
Grow up - you are like a little kid up sides with the majority rather than fight his own battles - you jump on everyone else's points when you think they have one up on someone - grow some balls!!
If it isn't trickle down economics what is it?
They cannot reduce the price and make a profit - simple economics really - do you think they should sell them at a loss - seriously, BMW would sell thousands more cars if they sold them at the same price as a smart car but they would be bankrupt!!
I have posted on the other thread just for you!!
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| Quote ="Mintball"Since we moved seriously to an economy based on neo-liberal ideology ('trickle down'/Reaganomics/Thatcherism), the cost of living has risen but income has declined for all but a very few.
We now have foodbanks growing massive;y, the Red Cross organising food parcels for UK people, Save the Children spending money in the UK rather than simply collecting it – and this in something like the seventh richest nation on Earth.
Trickle down is not working – and it never has.
Or ...
We could have a massive programme of building council housing that would be affordable for anyone, not just a few, or only on the basis of insane mortgages.
We are short hundreds of thousands of homes precisely because we have not, as a nation, built affordable housing for 20-odd years, not because the housing market has stalled a bit. Indeed, in the last year or so, the housing market has been going bonkers, with prices rising again massively. Housing is being built – and some of it is not even being put up for sale in this country, but advertised in the Far East. There's masses of building going on in my part of London – with prices in the ridiculous brackets for a one-bed flat on City Road, just north of Old Street: hardly a gentrified, quiet area.
The situation is unsustainable. And it's also completely counterproductive in terms of the national economy.'"
We have some food banks and that is a reflection of the average standard of living - are you serious? Compare that to the turn of the 20th century and you are seriously suggesting that the average household is worse off now than it was then - you are seriously suggesting that?
Mortgages have never been as cheap as they are now - the problem is finding the deposit.
I take you point about council housing - is that the best use of borrowed money because that is what the rate payers will have to subsidise for many years?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Not on this thread I didn't?'"
On which thread have you answered with the evidence?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"We have some food banks and that is a reflection of the average standard of living - are you serious? Compare that to the turn of the 20th century and you are seriously suggesting that the average household is worse off now than it was then - you are seriously suggesting that?'"
We are, in general, worse off than we were 30 years ago.
That is a fact, pretty universally acknowledged.
Quote ="Sal Paradise"Mortgages have never been as cheap as they are now - the problem is finding the deposit...'"
A one-bed flat for over a quarter of a million is a wonderfully sensible price, and any mortgage on it for anyone on less than £83,000 recurring per annum is on a sensible and sane mortgage.
I look forward to your calls for street sweepers and cleaners to be on that sort of a wage.
Quote ="Sal Paradise"I take you point about council housing - is that the best use of borrowed money because that is what the rate payers will have to subsidise for many years?'"
I don't know whether it would be the [ibest[/i, but it would be good. At present, we're subsidising a lack of genuinely affordable housing – huge amounts of benefits and failing local economies. So even if it wouldn't be quite the very best, it would be good.
Incidentally: thank you for making some effort to respond properly. Thats why you are in no danger of being bounced off for being a troll.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Grow up - you are like a little kid up sides with the majority rather than fight his own battles - you jump on everyone else's points when you think they have one up on someone - grow some balls!! '"
You seem to have a problem with anyone who asks you a question or challenges any point you make. Sad to say, if you didn't keep making things up maybe you wouldn't keep getting challenged. Or maybe, as Mintball said, if you actually answered any questions put to you about your often inflammatory posts.
Quote ="Sal Paradise"If it isn't trickle down economics what is it? '"
An increase in living standards over 100+ years? I'd guess at a combination of economic growth and technological, educational and social advances. Highly unlikely to be an economic policy that wasn't in force for the majority of that period and living standards had been increasing well before the period you specified.
Quote ="Sal Paradise"They cannot reduce the price and make a profit - simple economics really - do you think they should sell them at a loss - seriously, BMW would sell thousands more cars if they sold them at the same price as a smart car but they would be bankrupt!! '"
Really? House prices have increased by at least 100% in real terms in the last 20 years. Have building costs really risen by that much? Simple economics would indicate that house prices are a combination of building costs, ease of mortgage acquisition and wages ie supply and demand.
Housing, due to mortgages and a couple of other factors, is unlike any other "product" but BMW are a great example of premium pricing.
Quote ="Sal Paradise"I have posted on the other thread just for you!!'"
Which thread? The Asda one? Grangemouth? Or the one on the Leeds board where you said Gary Hetherington single-handedly made Nigel Wood Chairman of the RFL?
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| Quote ="Him"... Gary Hetherington single-handedly made Nigel Wood Chairman of the RFL?'"
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"
They cannot reduce the price and make a profit - simple economics really - do you think they should sell them at a loss - seriously, BMW would sell thousands more cars if they sold them at the same price as a smart car but they would be bankrupt!!
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A Smart car?
Would that be the same Smart car produced by those well-known manufacturers of old bangers, Daimler AG?
If you insist on introducing analogies, at least choose them with a little more thought
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| On the: "they cannot reduce the price and make a profit - simple economics really", when was the last time you read such utter cobblers?
Illustration.
I make something and the cost of making it, including labour, is £10. I sell it for £20. That's a £10 (100%) profit.
I cut the price to £15. I am still making a profit – £5/50%. "Simple economics", you might have thought.
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| Quote ="Mintball"
I make something and the cost of making it, including labour, is £10. I sell it for £20. That's a £10 (100%) profit.'"
No, it is a 100% markup but it is 50% profit as the cost of production was £10, the only time you can get 100% profit on and item is when you get it free and sell it.
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Quote ="cod'ead"We've got answers but first we'd like you to answer some from the last couple of days.
Gidiot is borrowing extra hundreds of £millions just to pay benefits, we borrowed £1.5tn to bail out the banks. There is ample scope to fund a massive house-building programme, the same as there was in the 1950s & 60s when this country was in an even worse financial state than it is now.
The only thing missing is political will'"
Good news ey Cod'ead?!
news.sky.com/story/1177107/house ... r-a-decade
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Quote ="cod'ead"We've got answers but first we'd like you to answer some from the last couple of days.
Gidiot is borrowing extra hundreds of £millions just to pay benefits, we borrowed £1.5tn to bail out the banks. There is ample scope to fund a massive house-building programme, the same as there was in the 1950s & 60s when this country was in an even worse financial state than it is now.
The only thing missing is political will'"
Good news ey Cod'ead?!
news.sky.com/story/1177107/house ... r-a-decade
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Hello little trolly-wolly: answered any questions – or just posted a link?
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Hello little trolly-wolly: answered any questions – or just posted a link?
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| [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25223687There's plenty of money to invest. Just not in housing.[/url
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It would be if they were council houses being built
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It would be if they were council houses being built
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It would be if they were council houses being built'"
Plus, if there hadn't been such a drop in building there wouldn't be a need for a high increase in it.
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| Quote ="Him"Plus, if there hadn't been such a drop in building there wouldn't be a need for a high increase in it.'"
And all predicated towards another housing bubble
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| Quote ="cod'ead"And all predicated towards another housing bubble'"
Right, so you want more houses built. It's happening now but somehow this is not good news? 
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| Quote ="Mintball"We are, in general, worse off than we were 30 years ago.
That is a fact, pretty universally acknowledged.'"
I'm sure we all hark back to the halcyon days of:
Quote ="JerryChicken"The era ?
1974 to 1984, an era of complete political turmoil, an era of two recessions, of three day weeks, of long strike bound periods when we couldn't get any steel onto sites - and still the political will found a way to raise finance for these huge investments.
That is all that is required.'"
We were all better off then.
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