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| Quote: Standee "No, I'll stay and remain incredibly tax efficient, thanks.
too many hangers on and freeloaders, just my opinion.'"
How many?
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| Quote: cod'ead "How many?'"
no idea, too many, probably in the hundreds of thousands, possibly more.
is everyone in receipt of benefit in [igenuine[/i need, in your opinion?
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| Quote: Standee "no idea, too many, probably in the hundreds of thousands, possibly more.
is everyone in receipt of benefit in [igenuine[/i need, in your opinion?'"
I wouldn't say 100% were but the number that are gaming the system are dwarfed by the number who aren't.
You should stop believing tabloid and tory bull[is[/ihit
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Quote: cod'ead "I wouldn't say 100% were but the number that are gaming the system are dwarfed by the number who aren't.
You should stop believing tabloid and tory bull[is[/ihit'"
DWP's own figures:
Income Support: 2.4%
JobSeeker's Allowance: 4.1%
Pension Credit: 2.3%
Housing Benefit: 1.3%
Incapacity Benefit: 0.3%
Disability Living Allowance: 0.5%
Retirement Pension: 0.0%
Carer's Allowance: 3.9%
wheresthebenefit.blogspot.co.uk/ ... ppers.html
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Quote: cod'ead "I wouldn't say 100% were but the number that are gaming the system are dwarfed by the number who aren't.
You should stop believing tabloid and tory bull[is[/ihit'"
DWP's own figures:
Income Support: 2.4%
JobSeeker's Allowance: 4.1%
Pension Credit: 2.3%
Housing Benefit: 1.3%
Incapacity Benefit: 0.3%
Disability Living Allowance: 0.5%
Retirement Pension: 0.0%
Carer's Allowance: 3.9%
wheresthebenefit.blogspot.co.uk/ ... ppers.html
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| Quote: cod'ead "I wouldn't say 100% were but the number that are gaming the system are dwarfed by the number who aren't.
You should stop believing tabloid and tory bull[is[/ihit'"
I KNOW, remember, I work in it, never said it was the majority.
Labour bull that the Tories believe it's the majority.
The political dogma on here is so biased it is untrue.
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| Quote: Standee "I KNOW, remember, I work in it, never said it was the majority.
Labour bull that the Tories believe it's the majority.
The political dogma on here is so biased it is untrue.'"
You have something to do with social housing right?
Or maybe wrong.
Just a question.
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| Quote: Sandra The Terrorist "You have something to do with social housing right?
Or maybe wrong.
Just a question.'"
No, I work in B&Q as a paint expert, which makes me as informed as the majority of posters on here,
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| Quote: Standee "No, I work in B&Q as a paint expert, which makes me as informed as the majority of posters on here,'"
Of course, because the connection between working at B&Q and being well-informed (or any degree of informed) is ...
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Of course, because the connection between working at B&Q and being well-informed (or any degree of informed) is ...
spectacular missing of point...
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Of course, because the connection between working at B&Q and being well-informed (or any degree of informed) is ...
And your ability to be more well informed than most is defined how exactly? you live in Lidgett Green?
People in glasshouses!!
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| Quote: Hull White Star "I'll take a wild guess that you were born in Beverley Westwood NHS hospital and your parents didn't pay a penny for your birth because the state didn't get your mother pregnant did they? I'll take another wild guess and say that your parents didn't pay a fee for you at the state school South Hunsley that you went to either.'"
We all pay for the NHS - its not free, 'most' pay in a hell of lot more than we ever get out. Your above statement is factually incorrect as is your point about education!!
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "We all pay for the NHS - its not free, 'most' pay in a hell of lot more than we ever get out. Your above statement is factually incorrect as is your point about education!!'"
She meant "free at the point of need" as you are fully aware.
Unfortunately contributing to the state is not some form of pick 'n' mix, where we can chose just what parts we'd like to make a contribution. I didn't agree with our invasion of Iraq but I never got a chance to withdraw my financial support in protest
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| Quote: cod'ead "She meant "free at the point of need" as you are fully aware.
Unfortunately contributing to the state is not some form of pick 'n' mix, where we can chose just what parts we'd like to make a contribution. I didn't agree with our invasion of Iraq but I never got a chance to withdraw my financial support in protest'"
Just because they don't give you bill doesn't mean its free it costs you just as much if not more over your lifetime - as you very well know. Personally I would rather pay pvt insurance and use when required.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "We all pay for the NHS - its not free, 'most' pay in a hell of lot more than we ever get out. Your above statement is factually incorrect as is your point about education!!'"
When you say most pay in a lot more than they get out, is that right? Most NHS spend occurs in a persons last year of life. The government is running a deficit which means tax revenues are less than overall expenditure. Most tax is paid by a relatively small proportion of people and so I am not sure it is correct to say most people pay in a lot more than they get out.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Just because they don't give you bill doesn't mean its free it costs you just as much if not more over your lifetime - as you very well know. Personally I would rather pay pvt insurance and use when required.'"
Would you? The reality of that is that the older you get the more expensive it would become to the stage where it would be costing tens of thousands of pounds per annum in your retirement. Not only that, should you get a chronic condition they would not insure you.
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