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Quote: Hutchie "I there another type of murder?
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Only if you work for the Met.

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Quote: Dally "Offences for which the death penalty shuld be introduced, IMO

Would that mean its OK to kill them on there tea break ?

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Quote: Big Graeme "An eye for and eye makes the whole world blind.'"


It's polite to reference a direct quote icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Big Graeme "An eye for and eye makes the whole world blind.'"


Not if there is an odd number of people, it doesn't.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Not if there is an odd number of people, it doesn't.'"


Cregan only has one so it may even it up.

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Quote: Hutchie "I think they should bring it back, but only for contestants of reality TV shows.

You get eliminated, you get the chair/rope/injection.

Will make people think twice about going on X Factor or Big Brother and will make society better in general.'"


I honestly didn't think there was an argument in the world that could persuade me to support the death penalty, but you seem to have found one icon_biggrin.gif

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I'm still waiting for Dally to explain why murdering Mr Plod is more worthy of state sponsored murder than - for example - the killing of a scientist?

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Quote: Rock God X "Isn't all murder premeditated?

Wouldn't that fall under the first category, above?

Yeah, good call. We should also execute alcoholics and the mentally ill.'"


1. No.
2. See 1 above.
3. Drinking alcohol is not illegal, taking drugs is. A mentally ill person is deemed not to murder.

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Quote: Hutchie "Would that mean its OK to kill them on there tea break ?'"

Are you an imbecile? Police officers could be murdered whilst off duty by someone not aware they were a police officer.

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Quote: Dally "Are you an imbecile? Police officers could be murdered whilst off duty by someone not aware they were a police officer.'"


What about plain clothes police officers? If you murdered one of those you could argue you didn't know they were a police officer or on duty. I presume you would want the perpetrator executed whereas if he topped the self same officer five minutes after he clocked off (unaware they were a police officer due to the plain clothes) its just life?

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Quote: DaveO "What about plain clothes police officers? If you murdered one of those you could argue you didn't know they were a police officer or on duty. I presume you would want the perpetrator executed whereas if he topped the self same officer five minutes after he clocked off (unaware they were a police officer due to the plain clothes) its just life?'"


or a retired copper, or if a copper killed a copper?

what about if a traffic cop got killed by a member of MI6?

the thought that someone choosing a profession makes them a more worthwhile person abhors me.

what if a Vicar shot a copper for having an affair with his wife, who was QC?

it's bat lunacy, again.

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Quote: Standee "... the thought that someone choosing a profession makes them a more worthwhile person abhors me ...'"


Spot on.

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Quote: Mintball "Spot on.'"


maybe we should let the Yorkshire Ripper out, he "only" murdered prostitutes afterall?

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Quote: Standee "maybe we should let the Yorkshire Ripper out, he "only" murdered prostitutes afterall?'"


Not strictly true.

But thats probably why West Yorks Police didn't persue him too hard in the 1970s, until he started the 80s off with "decent" girls.

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Quote: Dally "1. No. '"


For someone to be found guilty of murder, it has to be shown that they acted 'with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm'. I'd say that constituted being premeditated.

Quote: Dally "2. See 1 above.'"


See 1 above.

Quote: Dally "3. Drinking alcohol is not illegal, taking drugs is. '"


What difference does it make if the drug is illegal. Your reason for executing the addicts was 'persistent criminality', so why not execute 'persistently criminal' alcoholics, too? That's before we even examine the reasons a person might be addicted to Class A drugs. Heroin, to take one example, is addictive from the first use. There are any number of reasons a person might take that first hit, and after that, they're a slave to the drug. Are you really suggesting we should execute people for making one dumb choice that results in their addiction to heroin?

Quote: Dally "A mentally ill person is deemed not to murder.'"


But you never mentioned murder in your third point. You said 'persistent criminality as a result of Class A drug use'. If a person with mental illness behaves in a criminal manner, we (should) try to offer treatment for their illness and help to integrate back into society, not stick them in an electric chair. Surely the same consideration should be offered to drug addicts?

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St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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